The medical industry, religion, and Nancy Grace are all known to produce vile crap now and then. So I pity the ignorant parents instead of hating them.

I haven't seen Nancy Grace before, but she is freaking annoying.

The case is of course another case of religion vs. reason, and sadly religion won.

Upvote, even though I can't stand that nitwit Nancy Grace. Stories like these are too important to get hung up on who presents it.

But damn, I can't stand Nancy Grace.

Did I mention that I can't stand Nancy Grace?

Because I can't stand Nancy Grace.

Nancy Fucking Grace.

Can't stand her.

As of May 2006 Olbermann was doing pretty well for himself and his ratings have only improved since. From MediaWeek: "Third-place MSNBC saw its prime time audience jump 8 percent to 370,000, bolstered in part by the success of its Countdown with Keith Olbermann, which was the number two cable news program in the 8:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. time slot in the 25-54 demo, behind O'Reilly. Olbermann averaged 419,000 total viewers on the month, and 156,000 in the news demo, an increase of 37 percent. Headline News' Nancy Grace took third in the demo at 8:00 p.m., averaging 150,000 25-54s, while CNN's Paula Zahn Now lost 41 percent of the demo, coming in fourth with 147,000."

"Jon Stewart on Crossfire-- he only managed to shut the whole show down with his viciousness, but I guess that was "satire" as well?"

turcker carlson deserved what he had coming to him. he did nothing but jab at a COMEDIAN for not asking the hard hitting news questions.

the corporate news networks in general need to actually report news and not celebrity gossip. floundering pop stars are top stories. the news networks are the wool over the nation's eyes.

you want to see viciousness turn on Nancy Grace sometime.

Yet another loud-mouthed, patronizing douchebag.

We need to trick him, O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Nancy Grace, Joe Scarborough, and Glen Beck into agreeing to lead the first wave of colonists to another planet.

"You guys go on ahead. We'll be right behind you, we promise."

Then just launch thier ship into the sun.

You guys obviously never watched Nancy Grace.

Don't have time to watch all of it but looked relatively interesting, if not particularly original. The convergence of the world's economic, political, military and communication systems has certainly had a huge effect on the nature of news, especially in the United States. It's for that reason that I try to get most of my news from the News Hour with Jim Lehrer on PBS, as it has remained disentangled from the politics and money, and the politics of money, that has destroyed the creditability of network and particularly cable news. When CNN devotes it's 5:00-8:00PM timeslots to Nancy Grace and Entertainment news, it's pretty clear where their priorities are.

The real reason I decided not to watch all of this video however is that it did not appear that it was going to investigate the most important question associated with it's subject matter. The guy already seems to have decided what ethical war reporting is, and is devoting his movie to showing how war reporting of the Iraq War is unethical. I am already aware that reporting of the Iraq War, especially in it's run up, was hardly critical; I don't need an hour and a half long video to tell me that. What I would like to see examined is to what extent media manipulation during wartime is permissible in a democracy. I raise this question because the United States' most glaring military weakness is it's dependence upon popular support for any war it chooses to undertake. The Media war therefore becomes nearly as important as the ground war, yet two entirely different sets of rules and outlooks apply to the two wars.

An ethical war is the most desperate action a state can take, it is the least worst of bad options undertaken to acheive a greater good that exists in the long term. For a population accustomed to instant gratification, sacrifice and struggle for an uncertain positive outcome in the distant future is anathema. That's why leaders of states exist: to have the broader perspective of what is in a state's, and hopefully the international community at large as well, best interest. In democracies however, those leader's power is dependent upon the support of a general populace that is incapable of looking at the long term. To what extent then, is a leader ethical in taking undemocratic action to serve the best interests of the people? During wartime this becomes a question of what price victory. It's easy to dismiss this as an absurd question, that of course we shouldn't allow undemocratic action by our leaders because that would be undemocratic, but to do so would be to say that if the majority has decided it wants to march off a cliff then those in a position to redirect them should stand aside and let them march to their doom. Not all wars, and not all policies are such life and death issues, but even in less desperate situations I think it's an appropriate question to ask.

I bring all of this up because it seems fairly clear that the American public has decided that the sooner American involvement in Iraq ends, the better. The problem with that line of thinking is that Iraq is located in the Middle East, not South East Asia. Even if tomorrow the entire nation rallied behind a plan to end dependence on foreign oil and to cut all ties with our allies in the region, it would still take us several decades to completely disentangle ourselves from the middle east. My point here is that even if we wanted to, we cannot immediately end involvement with the most strategic region in the world. The outcome in Iraq is one that we are going to have to live with for a long time to come, we cannot simply wash our hands of what happens there. So the idea that rapid withdrawal is in America's best interest is in my opinion pure fantasy. It may be nice in the short term to stop having to read reports of American casualties, but in the long term we will have to deal with the consequences of a failed state smack dab in the Middle East. Victory is critical in my opinion, but the American people no longer have the will to win. The politically expedient move is to withdraw but such a move would be to the long run detriment of the nation. The rational decision for our leaders is irrational. This is perhaps the greatest danger of democracy, to what extent should we try to correct it?

Nancy Grace is seriously a tool.

The jesus camp thing....

I actually saw therealblankman's post of the movie preview before I saw the ABC news story posted by farhad. It was so scary, sad, and disgusting all by itself that I didn't really notice the ABC commentary during their story. But, as I go back and watch it again... yeah, definitely sensationalizing it (although they didn't need to). I try to be a critical viewer and reader, but I didn't even notice it the first time I saw it. It's just feels offensive to me to be played like that, and I just turn off when I see it. Kind of like when I watch Nancy Grace for more than a minute or so. Pisses me off.

Arrr!

Nancy Grace is rabid beeyaatch. Seriously she has this righteous ego thinkning she knows people are guilt before they are even allowed a full trail. There are countless examples of where she accused people of something before anything has been proven.

Sad story of woman who kills herself after Nancy Grace insinuates she kidnapped her own son (with video of Nancy yelling):
http://www.local6.com/video/9815958/index.html

Another example of Nancy Grace exploiting a crime, on sift:
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=4328&where=index

When did they stop reporting the news?

"I didn't think Joe would ever be the source of a Bush blooper reel, but check his blog out too."

Since Olbermann became a success and Dan Abrams was promoted to manager big-shot, MS-NBC has quit trying to be FOX News Lite. They killed Rita Cosby's show and Abrams own show, and Tucker Carlson's and Joe Scarborough's shows are both becoming more Countdownesque. Carlson has some funny bits slagging Nancy Grace, and Joe has done some good bits on Laura Ingram. Tucker and Joe aren't my two favorite people in the world, but at least they both seem to have authentic senses of humor, something completely absent from the folks at FOX and CNN.

The network is actually becoming watchable, at least in small doses.