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A real shooting star - Mira leaves a 13 light-year tail

MycroftHomlz says...

Ok. Johnny. I will try to answer your questions and if I can't I know someone who can.

angular velocity=velocity/radius

Also, my guess is: You are trying to backwards calculate the energy. You have to use the reletavistic correction for something going this fast.

I have to pick up some business cards and go to the gym. I will reply more in a couple hours.

>> ^jonny:
re: velocity - The 64km/s (≈ 143000mph) is radial velocity, so I guess it's not relevant, but I can't find any reference to its linear(?) velocity...

A real shooting star - Mira leaves a 13 light-year tail

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'mira, shooting, star, ultraviolet, tail, spitzer, galaxy, evolotion, explorer' to 'mira, shooting, star, ultraviolet, tail, spitzer, galaxy, evolution, explorer' - edited by Issykitty

jonny (Member Profile)

kronosposeidon says...

No, I'm not a phyicist, but Mycrofthomlz is, so he might be able to help you if you really want to know. I wish I knew the answer too.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
yeah I got the humor part.
I wrote back directly, though, because I thought had read before that you were a physicist. I also wondered if I was asking a silly question after reading yours and deathcow's comments.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I know it was a serious question. My answer was my silly way of saying that I have no clue. I didn't think you were calling "FAKE" or anything like that either. I was just having a little fun.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
It was supposed to be a serious question. Did I miss something in the video that explains it? I looked around for info on the nasa site and wikipedia and elsewhere, but the source of the emission isn't really ever brought up. Just that the interaction of the star moving that fast through interstellar space "ignited" the material left behind. Obviously, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I can't think of any other phenomenon in which energy is emitted for that long without some source of energy.

I'm not suggesting the data was faked or anything, just trying to understand what is clearly a very odd finding.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
^Ya know dude, I'm not really sure about all of that. I might have known, but I got kicked out of MIT's astrophysics program for immoral experiments with gravity. I don't think those kittens suffered. Too much.

MycroftHomlz (Member Profile)

kronosposeidon (Member Profile)

jonny says...

yeah I got the humor part.
I wrote back directly, though, because I thought had read before that you were a physicist. I also wondered if I was asking a silly question after reading yours and deathcow's comments.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I know it was a serious question. My answer was my silly way of saying that I have no clue. I didn't think you were calling "FAKE" or anything like that either. I was just having a little fun.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
It was supposed to be a serious question. Did I miss something in the video that explains it? I looked around for info on the nasa site and wikipedia and elsewhere, but the source of the emission isn't really ever brought up. Just that the interaction of the star moving that fast through interstellar space "ignited" the material left behind. Obviously, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I can't think of any other phenomenon in which energy is emitted for that long without some source of energy.

I'm not suggesting the data was faked or anything, just trying to understand what is clearly a very odd finding.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
^Ya know dude, I'm not really sure about all of that. I might have known, but I got kicked out of MIT's astrophysics program for immoral experiments with gravity. I don't think those kittens suffered. Too much.

jonny (Member Profile)

kronosposeidon says...

I know it was a serious question. My answer was my silly way of saying that I have no clue. I didn't think you were calling "FAKE" or anything like that either. I was just having a little fun.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
It was supposed to be a serious question. Did I miss something in the video that explains it? I looked around for info on the nasa site and wikipedia and elsewhere, but the source of the emission isn't really ever brought up. Just that the interaction of the star moving that fast through interstellar space "ignited" the material left behind. Obviously, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I can't think of any other phenomenon in which energy is emitted for that long without some source of energy.

I'm not suggesting the data was faked or anything, just trying to understand what is clearly a very odd finding.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
^Ya know dude, I'm not really sure about all of that. I might have known, but I got kicked out of MIT's astrophysics program for immoral experiments with gravity. I don't think those kittens suffered. Too much.

kronosposeidon (Member Profile)

jonny says...

It was supposed to be a serious question. Did I miss something in the video that explains it? I looked around for info on the nasa site and wikipedia and elsewhere, but the source of the emission isn't really ever brought up. Just that the interaction of the star moving that fast through interstellar space "ignited" the material left behind. Obviously, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I can't think of any other phenomenon in which energy is emitted for that long without some source of energy.

I'm not suggesting the data was faked or anything, just trying to understand what is clearly a very odd finding.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
^Ya know dude, I'm not really sure about all of that. I might have known, but I got kicked out of MIT's astrophysics program for immoral experiments with gravity. I don't think those kittens suffered. Too much.

A real shooting star - Mira leaves a 13 light-year tail

deathcow says...

Astronomers are not totally sure about the ultraviolet fluoresence of the Mira trail. They think the bow shock of this star (the star is travelling at almost 300,000 miles per hour relative to the matter the star is colliding with) is producing enough heat to cause the gas to fluoresce. Think HUGE amounts of REALLY hot matter spread out in a gigantic tail in an environment with little conductive or convective heat loss. This thing would glow for a long time. (Like nebula surrounding the remains of a supernova where only the released energy of the event long ago has the shells of gas still glowing.)

rembar (Member Profile)

Clip from - Who's That Singing Over There?, 1980

Eklek says...

Lyrics of the song by "The Drinkers"

Sviče zora u subotu
Dan doleče iz daljine
Svi junaci ovog kraja
Čekaju da sunce svine
Čekaju da sunce svine

Joj ojoj…..

Za Beograd (za Beograd)
firmom Krstič (firmom Krstič)
Upravo se narod sprema
Sve razloge za put ima
Samo valjda sreče nema joj

Majko mila (majko mila)
Šta se zbiva (šta se zbiva)
Tužna li se pesma peva
Smrt je došla u pohode
Ovde više nema mira joj

Nesrečnik sam od malena
Od sve muke pesme pevam
Voleo bih majko mila
Da se ovo samo sneva
Da se ovo samo sneva

Joj ojoj….

Spremao je (dugo švaba)
Ovaj dugi (strašni let)
Ko nekako da uništi
I izgradi novi svet (i izgradi novi svet) joj

Švaba jaše (švaba jaše)
Crnog konja (crnog konja)
Potresla se sva Europa
Naša vojska napad sprema
Spremila je malog topa jooj

Drinker jaše pune flaše

Russian plane that flies on water documentary

Farhad2000 says...

Okay I wrote a translation. Not that much new information here for me, but still for all the rest of you! I wonder if I can add this in Google Video for CC.

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It was truly a thing of wonder, still unsurpassed, surely no one in the observable future will able to construct something like the Caspian Sea Monster (KM) - The Ekranoplan, the work of the great Russian innovator Rastislav Evegniy Alexisy. Once the Caspian Sea Monster (KM) was filled with a record load of 544 tons, a record for not only for the Ekranoplan, but all flying based vehicles existing on the planet, even the famous Mira could not take such a load, yet the Caspian Sea monster did it in stormy weather!

They died together, in one year, Alexis in February 1980. The Ekranoplan a little later in latter testing stages, it sank in 20m waters. It's gigantic tail sticking from the water like a tombstone for a long time.

The Ekranoplan is basically an plane, but its massive lifting power comes from 2 technologies, the first being plane lift technology, and Ekranoplan effect (BTW in The US/UK this is called Ground Effect).

"It's incredible that this huge plane flies just a few meters off the water, using just one engine, this was done possible due to Ekrano effect where a pocket of air is created between the plane wing and the water, providing lift"

This lift support, makes the Ekranoplan a more economic plane, i.e. the weight lift capability created meant that the plane flying over water, could be up to 40% larger.

"This gave an increase speed and sea mobility regardless of wave fluctuations for the most part. This is why the air pocket planes... so called Ekranoplans were developed, however the first developments of the ekrano effect were found in early airplanes."

The Ekrano effect was noticed in the infancy of aviation, pilots first felt it when they would try to land, the effect would reduce plane control, and the higher the aerodynamic quality of the plane the less the Ekrano effect would take place. However from the point of view of the pilot and the air builder this was a negative effect, but it gained the attention of various inventors, especially those of speedboats, leading to famous developments of speedboats with under board wings which were also the design of Alexisy Evegniy.

However when these boats reached speeds of 100 to 150 KM/H, they would reach a limit of the Ekrano effect, and Rastislav decided that it was time to stop fighting against the wing and re-design it altogether and enhance the effect of Ekrano effect, to gain the most speed it would need to glide above water. And Alexis started with the largest, a real Caspian monster, the KM was 92 meters long, with a height of 22 M and a wingspan 37 M. The underside was built like a boat, though the most of the exterior looked like that of a plane.



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