I've done a fair bit of work in AI, mostly genetic programming and evolutionary computing. The popular conception that if we just had more processing power we could create a truly intelligent machine is, well, nonsense. The machine still needs some code to run. The problem for AI isn't one of computational power, it's a problem of representation. (The history of Deep Blue is an excellent example of this.)

I'm not suggesting that more computational power won't help - quite the opposite. But it doesn't solve anything on its own. As Michio notes, machines can already see and hear better than humans, but they have no understanding. That understanding can only occur with good information representation. I personally think evolutionary techniques are probably the quickest path to get there, but then, the coders will be no more aware of the machine's internal representations than neuroscientists are of humans' internal representations today. Whether that understanding is important is something of a philosophical question.

Out of respect for bareboards2 and to indulge my surly, trollish, nature......

This site behaves like a mob-centered clique of tittering children most of the time. The same children who fancy themselves intelligent, erudite, progressive, etc. etc., blah blah blah....The majority and most vocal of those wielding power??-a gaggle of cheap-seat posers here sister, they can't help it-They were raised by the developmentally disabled on video games, too much Satanic television programming, and are victims of a socio-genetic program of disinformation, propaganda, and chemical brain alterations through municipal water, food additives. and pharmaceuticals. In short, those touting the most far-left liberal ideologies are the most full of absolute horse shit-their compasses having been damaged in a powerful magnetic storm of their own bullshit.

Sneaking in back doors through proxy servers with a handful of sock-puppets and an infamous former moniker, one man has forever stained the consciousness of the most stricken of these nit-wit fucks.....

False accusations fueled by passive-aggressive dicklessness was the "final straw" when some brown-nosing Assburger goaded-on another mental midget into a panty-knot whose skin happened to have more melanin than the person who addressed him as "monkey" AND "knuckle-dragger (as in, WE ALL CAME DOWN FROM TREES BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE A BIT THICKER AND SLOWER THAN OTHERS....HELLO!!?? YOU DUMB-ASSES!!) resulting in a fucking lynch-mob of inequity resulting in a permanent banjo.
Yeah, all you fuck-sticks who jumped on the bandwagon....The guy was black and falsely accused a white man of racism because he was a reactionary and ignorant of the engloish language, and IT SUITED HIS DYSFUNCTION TO DESTROY ANOTHER'S WORK...he never discussed SHIT with me....fucking asshole of a black man if ya ask me.....he's AWOL as well....thanks a lot ya fucking pussy, burdturgler.\

Suck my asshole white.

Fuck you all, trolls never die, especially those whose talent, creativity, and passion trump that of the no-life-hafvin' psychic vampires whose energy comes from sucking it from others more alive than themselves..... the Brits call 'em cunts, so I'm told.

I was going to wait until 10 published viddies until I came out to shove shit up the asses of those in need of a reverse colonic but when I see yet another female having to put up with sophomoric cocksuckers who couldn't get a date with male or female without paying and whose dicks are so misshapen from pulling their package they resemble some reptile in mid-peristalsis....

gwiz, yer a fucking cunt-wanking in your dormroom, playing shitty, soul-less guitar-You don't know it yet but you truly hate women....come out of the closet you do not know you are in, and find a nice hairy man.
BF, you haven't changed, as un-clever as ever. Get a fucking life. Take a bath you greasy little mole and Fuck your dead cat.
KP disappeared but he'll probably rear his cunt-head for another ban.
NetRuiner?? You cried and cried until your wife drew sympathy from her "hiatus" until the source of your pain was forever banished....boo fucking hoo...Notice how your fucking politics are getting shoved directly up your unconscious asses lately?? Fuck the both of you dick-less wonders. Met your type before...they grind the brain-shaped putties out of so-called institutions of higher learning with PhD's and masters degrees daily....most, retarded with no practical survival skills, spouting some party lines instead of snorting them. Try groupsex, perhaps your marriage will last.

DAG, fuck man, your site blows chunks anymore.....what ever happened to that guy choggie??
Oh. Yeah. You fucked him. Nah, it's worse. You sat back and let the rabble high-jack your site....Fuck You.


Hang in there bareboards2, or better yet, go out with a bang....leave your mark and show these children some serious girl-power....


Back as fast as you can say "Bhagwan kare tu aadhi raat gaadi chalate hue uski petrol khatm ho jaaye aur teri jeb mein phooti kaudi na ho."

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>> ^imstellar28:
^NetRunner
I have read of similar characteristics being evolutionarily viable (in-group loyalty, altruism, taste aversion). I am accusing him of pseudo-science because even if there was some sort of link between genetic programming and political affiliation his scientific methods are juvenile at best, and he is making conclusions based off his own prejudice rather than from the actual data.

I'm no psychologist, sociologist or anthropologist, and while those branches of science do take a lot of flak from proponents of the "harder" sciences, you have to keep in mind that we're at the infantile/alchemical stage of study there. We know so little about the mechanics of the human mind, so to study behavioral patterns, you pretty much have to do this kind of study by survey.

I think again, you're trying to take this video and assume that this is all the documentation he has for his theory, and that he just woke up that morning and stumbled onto the auditorium, with no credentials for being there.

You're a fan of telling people to go read books -- go read some of his.

^NetRunner

I have read of similar characteristics being evolutionarily viable (in-group loyalty, altruism, taste aversion). I am accusing him of pseudo-science because even if there was some sort of link between genetic programming and political affiliation his scientific methods are juvenile at best, and he is making conclusions based off his own prejudice rather than from the actual data. How exactly is he testing for these 5 foundations in babies (anyone older than a baby would have their "moral foundation" erased by empirical data).

And as far as tying the 5 foundations to political affiliation--the questions in his survey (which I just took myself) are clearly biased such that it is obvious what choices one could select in order to obtain a score of "liberal" or "conservative". He isn't asking subtle, complex moral questions, he is in literally asking questions which are direct opinions held by liberals or conservatives. Case in point is the question about chastity which is directly scored as "purity".

Reminds me of this quote I read from Richard Dawkins:

It is notoriously hard to persuade drivers to slow down in a fog, or refrain from tailgating at high speed. The economist Armen Alchian has ingeniously suggested that we should abolish seat belts and instead compulsorily fix a sharp spear to all cars in the middle of the steering wheel, pointing straight at the driver’s heart. I think I would find it persuasive, whether or not for atavistic reasons. I also find intellectually persuasive the following calculation: if a car travelling at 80 miles per hour is abruptly slammed to a complete halt, this is equivalent to hitting the ground after falling from a New York skyscraper. In other words, when you are driving fast, it’s exactly as if you were hanging from the top of the Empire State Building by a rope, sufficiently thin that its probability of breaking is equal to the probability that the driver in front of you will do something really stupid. I know almost nobody who could happily sit on a window sill up a skyscraper, and very few who do things like bungy jumping willingly. Yet almost everybody happily drives at high speed along motorways, even when they clearly understand in a cerebral way that the dangers are precisely equivalent. I think it quite plausible that we are genetically programmed to be afraid of heights, but not to be afraid of travelling at high speeds horizontally in wheeled vehicles, because our ancestors would never have met them.

An incredibly awesome example of Genetic Programming!