What game is that, dad? That is, how should I step up my game? By humbly beseeching you to teach me the error of my ways, instead of knocking you off the pedestal you put yourself on?

Note: I did not disagree with your argument. (I wrote that once already.) But you really need to check your ego. It kind of hurts your argument. You're a scientician, right? What good is the most brilliant idea in the world if no one will listen to it because of the attitude?

Here ya go. Don't say I never did anything for you.>> ^rembar:

I will when you manage to step your game up.
>> ^kronosposeidon:
I agree with your argument, but get over yourself. >> ^rembar:
P.S. Sifters, what the hell has happened? Y'all know I also think religion is a crock of shit but you are better than this....for shame.

I will when you manage to step your game up.

>> ^kronosposeidon:

I agree with your argument, but get over yourself. >> ^rembar:
P.S. Sifters, what the hell has happened? Y'all know I also think religion is a crock of shit but you are better than this....for shame.

Hi @rembar,

I'm always happy to discuss things with fellow advocates of science. First of all, thanks for administrating the Science channel.

The video doesn't appear to claim Muslims produce only 1% of scientific papers, but instead claims the "Islamic World" produces only 1% of scientific papers. Indeed, the author of the original article is a Muslim living in Britain who is arguing for greater scientific funding in the Islamic World and that "A cultural renaissance leading to a knowledge-based society is urgently required if the Muslim world is to accept and embrace [the scientific spirit.]" He's referring to Islamic societies, not Muslims like himself living outside of Islamic societies.

I think you're right that there's a terminology error in the video description submitted by @BicycleRepairMan , in which "Muslims" should be replaced with "[the Islamic World]." In a nutshell, the video gets it right, but the video description gets it wrong.

Thanks for bringing attention to that important distinction.

I agree with your argument, but get over yourself. >> ^rembar:

P.S. Sifters, what the hell has happened? Y'all know I also think religion is a crock of shit but you are better than this....for shame.

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>> ^rembar:

There are a few good comments here with a bunch of crap floating around them. Having just watched the video and browsed the article, I am going to boot this the fuck out of Science for shittiness.
As no-really pointed out, looking at the scientific output for nations where Islam is the state religion does not say much about the scientific output of Muslims in general. If we looked at the output for nations where some form of Christianity is the state religion, what do you think you'd see?
England + Costa Rica + Liechtenstein + Malta + Monaco + Vatican City + Cyprus + Greece + Finland + Denmark + Iceland + Norway + Tuvalu = England + meh.
England is the only real heavy hitter in there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion#Christian_countries
At very best, a reasonable argument could be made that there is a correlation between low scientific output of nations with state religions, but I'll eat a dick or two if you can dig through the confounding factors to make a solid case for that.
Point being, this video sucks, the article linked sucked too, and don't make broad generalizations about Islam and science without being able to back it up with scientific proof.
Fuck this, I'm out.
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You would think selling one's soul would make for a better song....or a better career.

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^rembar:
Huh. The beginning of this song sounds exactly like Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby". Queen was jacking Vanilla's material???!?!
... ducks

eat your own excrement and die.
vanilla gave his popularity with his soul, to atain that is what you make fun of.

>> ^rembar:

Huh. The beginning of this song sounds exactly like Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby". Queen was jacking Vanilla's material???!?!
... ducks


eat your own excrement and die.
vanilla gave his popularity with his soul, to atain that is what you make fun of.

>> ^rembar:

In light of Linda's post, I'm going to discard this post for now.

This is why I love the Sift.

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For what it's worth:

The man later got a prosthetic face (an interesting story by itself, created by a man who had his own history working for the CIA): http://www.healthaire.co.nz/images/mark_tatum3.jpg

And apparently he did die of unknown causes: http://www.mold-help.org/content/view/544/

"Mr. Mark Tatum, also known by many as the man without a face, passed 4:00 CST Saturday, February 26, 2005 at the Medco Center of Franklin, Kentucky. Tatum lost his eyes, upper jaw, and nose to a fungal infection in 2000. This type of infection is not that unusual, but the extent of the damage that it did to Tatum was very rare. Tatum was a medical phenomena due to the fact that he survived the infection. Due to his extreme experience, Tatum was highly profiled in the media by many people including Larry King, Maury Povich, and Ripley's Believe it or Not. He was a courageous individual who served as a symbol of strength for the thousands of people who have lost their health, homes, and livliehood from fungal exposure.

According to a friend who spoke to him that day, Mr. Tatum was in good spirits and feeling very positive towards his future. He had just been fitted with a new prosthetic face (see below). He was extremely excited about helping victims of toxagenic mold exposure so he could uncover the real truth about fungus as a synonymous predator to the virus and bacteria.

At this point, the cause of his death is still unknown. An autopsy has been requested by his family. More information will be posted when we obtain the results.

Funeral services were held March 2, 2005 at Crafton Funeral Home. The Rev. Winston Roberts officiated with burial at Hillsdale Cemetery. Tatum was a native of Hopkinsville, Kentucky, and worked as a security guard until his fungal infection in 2000. He was the son of the late Franklin Eugene Tatum and Emma Thomas Tatum.

Donations in Mark Tatum's name will be gratefully accepted to assist the Children's Angel Fund:

Children's Angel Fund
P.O. Box 1026
Pepperell, MA 01463"

You can read more on the page. I will be sending along a donation for that fund soon. I was impressed by the strength and courage displayed by Mr. and Mrs. Tatum. I don't know if I would have had the same strength of will to keep fighting if I were in the same situation.

One more vote to send this to the front...

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Hate to be a spoilsport but http://www.videosift.com/video/X-Men-2-Nightcrawler-attacks-the-White-House
It's dead right now though, so let's wait with dupeof until rembar or someone else gets the embed changed.