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I didn't know John Goodman was a car collector. It was also a shame when Saturn's EV1 electric car was scrapped by GM and others

I agree that all electric vehicles are totally stupid idea until there is either an energy savings somewhere in the system or more energy added. Right now if cars were 100% electric, the demand would be huge and the needed extra aluminum to add powerlines to charge all these batteries would be staggering.

However, we have to start somewhere with some medium volume electric cars, also a hybrid that turns gas into power would really be a great thing strategically. Imagine if 50% of the cars on the road were designed to plug into the grid? We would never have blackouts, or extra energy could be added in the summers. Also mass production of these cars drastiaclly brings down the costs and makes it easier for next generation technologies.

GM are a bunch of crooks and everyone should tell Congress they deserve NO BAILOUT. They would be rolling in money now if they didn't crush all their EV1s. They would literally be a decade ahead of competitors.

I drove and EV1 and they were unbelievable. They were sportscars in a retarded ufo looking shell.. Truly amazing.

But why did they make the EV1 look like hairy arse? As much as I love the idea of fuel free vehicles, I just couldn't be seen dead in that bollockery. It's the same with the current hybrids aswell, surely they could make them look like a proper sedan instead of this unconventional gimmicky stylised nonsense.

>> ^campionidelmondo:
the additional energy that would be needed to "fuel" these things would have to be generated from coal and nuclear power plants.


Nuk-u-lar. It's pronounced Nuk-u-lar.

>> ^campionidelmondo:
Oh guys, please get your heads out of your asses. I know those lil electric cars look promising, but they can only be part of a solution when used in connection with clean energy. Right now, these electric cars won't solve anything, because the additional energy that would be needed to "fuel" these things would have to be generated from coal and nuclear power plants.

Maybe so, but power plant emissions are easier to manage than those of millions of cars, especially old cars. Remember that the first cars were electric, but that petrol won in the end because of the convenience factor as there was no national electric grid yet. In pre-war days, fuel efficiency was low and roads sparse. People used mass transit to go from city to city, or even from place to place in a big city. In fact, subways predate the automobile and are still run by electricity to this day.

But this is primarily a North American problem/misconception, that anything that doesn't let you go in the remotest of places the instant you think of going there is "not good". Let's quote Wikipedia: "Some cities have built urban rail transit systems that are so comprehensive and efficient that the majority of city residents use it as their primary means of transport. This is common in many of the largest cities in Europe, such as Berlin, Paris, London, Madrid and Moscow, many large cities in Asia, such as Hong Kong, Osaka, Seoul, Taipei, and Tokyo; in North America the only city matching these is New York.[52]" And so the conundrum: if you're working in a big city where mass transit is useful and ubiquitous, do you really need a car to commute? No. If you're not working in such a city, do you need a car? Potentially yes. Then, would you need a car that can go 500 miles in a day to commute? Not useless you're crazy. And if you really need to go from Los Angeles to New York in your car (because you're mentally ill or on a road trip), why don't you take an electric car and take your time? Driving too many hours in the same day only increases the risk of accidents. And if you don't have the time to take your time, what the hell are you wasting time driving for?

Too bad the EV1 was so hideous.

Other than that, I'm holding out for the Volvo ReCharge. The way I see it, that is the BEST choice. incredible mileage, and you have an unlimited range because you can always fuel up.

I guess we can take solace in the fact that GM is probably kicking their self in the asses because the main consumer drive is mileage now.

I'm ready to go get a degree in mechanical and electrical engineering so I can build my own damn electric car.

And O NOES! Americans live like youropeeins!?!?! Heaven forbid we not use 85% of the world's oil.

>> ^charliem:
It is indeed real.
You could use the same argument as to why GM and the California Energy Dept. and the US Federal Govt. canned the EV1 production in the later 90's.
"Ahh its gotta be fake if the car manufacturers dont wanna support it!!!"
Think about that for a min..



Back when people were spending 98 cents for a gallon of gas? Car companies didn't give a shit about economy. Now? That's their biggest selling point.

It is indeed real.

You could use the same argument as to why GM and the California Energy Dept. and the US Federal Govt. canned the EV1 production in the later 90's.

"Ahh its gotta be fake if the car manufacturers dont wanna support it!!!"

Think about that for a min..

There are some things I just do not understand. First our country was founded on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, why do we not learn them? Second, even when people in a free nation find something wrong they say nothing and do less. Third, in a free republic, no one should be afraid of there government. Fourth, laws for the people should not fill libraries when even lawyers only learn parts, however; the people can be prosecuted on any of them, even in the face of ignorance. Fifth, why is it we invade and occupy other countries trying to be the police of the world? Is this the free nation so many have died for? Is this the nation we wish to leave to our children?

I joined the army to support and defend our Constitution against terrorism. I am finding the real terrorist are ourselves. We have turned a blind eye to our government and let them do as they please. Income tax is unconstitutional so they passed the 16th amendment, we let them. Yet in 6 months of looking I cannot find the law that Congress passed outlining income tax. According to the Constitution, the Military can only be governed by Congress, not a hand-full of appointed people, article 1 section 8 paragraphs 12-16. We can only go to war with a declaration of war, war on drugs, war on terrorism, and war on poverty, all unlawful. Conflicts are another issue, reading the Constitution, I can only find two reasons to commit troops; defense of invasion and declaration of war. The people holding office have sworn to uphold the Constitution; we need to hold them to their oath. We are responsible to know and enforce the Constitutional law; full understanding of it should not be in question. It is the Supreme law of our land, it should be the one law every American knows passionately and intimately it is not open to manipulation.

There is NO LAW anywhere stating we must pay or file income tax, out of fear we do. The Federal Reserve is not a department of any branch of our government; it is not subject to audit or investigation by any outside organization. It somehow has the right to print our money and control the interest rates. Our government borrows from them and pay’s it back with interest. The Constitution says we will only “Coin” money to keep its value true and real. We watch as our fellow Americans are jailed and stripped of every thing. We have let them set up the CIA, FBI, NSA and Department of Homeland Security, to spy on us and everyone else doing nothing. We have let the Department of Education tell us what to teach our children. Department of Protective Services tells us how to raise our children. Departments of; Transportation, Energy, and many more you can look up.
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml

The inefficiencies, and contradictions, are astounding. The vast majority of them could be abolished and we would be better off without them controlling our lives and business.


We all live in fear and are intimidated by our government, the phrase “You can’t fight City Hall” or “What can you do about it, it’s the government.” Our police, enforcing blind obedience, treat us as criminals all the time even during traffic stops. Put in handcuffs just to be taken in for questioning. We are required to show identification if asked. Registering cars, boats, guns, pet’s, even ourselves. We must ask permission to get married, drive, skill trades, hunt, fish, build a house, or alter it. As an added insult we must pay for the privilege. Does this sound like Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave? They can take our lands if they decide it is in the Public’s best interest, without vote, or consideration of the land owner. The most disturbing thought is we have people who have been serving in Washington and the military for 20 plus years. Why have none of them done any thing to fight for it? The obvious fact would be they do not think we can make decisions for ourselves, or as we give up our freedoms the power over us increases and they like the power. I would like to see anyone who has knowingly compromised the Constitution pay back every dime they were paid and put in jail. The device of control they so carefully implemented.

I have yet to meet anyone who says they know all the laws, even Lawyers going to school for 8 years or more only learn to specialize in one area. Our Republic was not intended to repress or control every aspect of our life. Freedom should mean Free. Free choice, right or wrong, is ours to make. We as the People of a Free Republic, looking out for each other in common respect, would not need tomes of law to live in peace. We need to know we are not a capitalist democracy. We do not need our government to dictate how we live, think, believe, behave or raise our families. Here is a fact about our legal system, Alaska has 683,000 total population, Texas has 706,000 in the correction system, the prison budget of 52.4 billion (2006) nation wide, once in the system there is a 90% repeat offender rate. It does not look as though the correction system is working!

I am a Soldier sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution; I will spend the rest of my life doing so. I have read and reread the Constitution, it is very clear as to our role in World politics, trade but not interfering with the internal politics of other Countries. We have 106 bases outside the U.S. securing our interests. We are given live ammunition and the right to apprehend anyone trying to cross someone else’s border but not our own. Try if you can to imagine China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran, Russia, France or any other nation having one of their bases in the U.S. When I look up the definition of terrorist, then look at our behavior world wide and internally, I see true terrorism. We the people have let down our founding fathers. We the people have to make it right. Congress, down to your local townships, must understand we are in charge. Write letters, form groups, learn the Supreme Law, and push to implement it. No law maker any were at any level can write a law that is in conflict to the Constitution. This includes the military, no regulation that removes rights is Constitutional, only congress can govern us, they were not given the right to govern us out side the Constitution. I am very disappointed with the unprofessional silent obedience the officers have demonstrated over the years, for us to get to this point the military, law enforcement, politicians and the courts have all failed to do there civil service. For more than a hundred years we have let things go, without a doubt it will take time to correct.

One more thing, just to ponder on a small group working for GM developed an electric car called the EV1. They built 4000 of them leased them to people in California for 4 years. Not one person who had them had any complaints about the car or its performance. At the termination of the lease GM refused to sell the customers the cars. GM sent an employee to the scrap yard to insure every one of them went through the shredder not just crushed but shredded. With the lack of maintenance and repair, the car would not be able to be sold for enough to make the same profits as the inefficient internal combustion engine. Big business has gotten out of control we must wake up and take our republic back. Anyone who is not willing to fight even die for their freedom does not deserve freedom and should consider leaving. I will gladly stand side by side with anyone fighting for freedom, and a fight is coming.

you all need to look and read up on Ron Paul. we do have a choice this time!! There are some things I just do not understand. First our country was founded on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, why do we not learn them? Second, even when people in a free nation find something wrong they say nothing and do less. Third, in a free republic, no one should be afraid of their government. Fourth, laws for the people should not fill libraries when even lawyers only learn parts. However; the people can be prosecuted on any of them, even in the face of ignorance. Fifth, why is it we invade and occupy other countries trying to be the police of the world? Is this the free nation so many have died for? Is this the nation we wish to leave to our children?

I joined the army to support and defend our Constitution against terrorism. I am finding the real terrorist are ourselves. We have turned a blind eye to our government and let them do as they please. Income tax is unconstitutional so they passed the 16th amendment, we let them. Yet in 6 months of looking I cannot find the law that Congress passed outlining income tax. According to the Constitution, the Military can only be governed by Congress, not a hand-full of appointed people, article 1 section 8 paragraphs 12-16. We can only go to war with a declaration of war, war on drugs, war on terrorism, and war on poverty, all unlawful. Conflicts are another issue, reading the Constitution, I can only find two reasons to commit troops; defense of invasion and declaration of war. The people holding office have sworn to uphold the Constitution; we need to hold them to their oath. We are responsible to know and enforce Constitutional law; full understanding of it should not be in question. It is the Supreme law of our land, it should be the one law every American knows passionately and intimately and should not be open to manipulation.

There is NO LAW anywhere stating we must pay or file income tax, but out of fear we do. The Federal Reserve is not a department of any branch of our government; it is not subject to audit or investigation by any outside organization, yet it somehow has the right to print our money and control the interest rates. Our government borrows from them and pays it back with interest. The Constitution says we will only “Coin” money to keep its value true and real. We watch as our fellow Americans are jailed and stripped of everything. We have let them set up the CIA, FBI, NSA and Department of Homeland Security, to spy on us and everyone else doing nothing. We have let the Department of Education tell us what to teach our children. Department of Protective Services tells us how to raise our children. Departments of; Transportation, Energy, and many more you can look up.

The inefficiencies and contradictions are astounding. The vast majority of them could be abolished and we would be better off without them controlling our lives and business.


We all live in fear and are intimidated by our government, often quoting the phrases “You can’t fight City Hall” or “What can you do about it, it’s the government.” Our police, enforcing blind obedience, treat us as criminals all the time even during traffic stops. Putting us in handcuffs just to be taken in for questioning. We are required to show identification if asked. Registering cars, boats, guns, pet’s, even ourselves. We must ask permission to get married, drive, skill trades, hunt, fish, build a house, or alter it. As an added insult we must pay for the privilege. Does this sound like Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave? They can take our land if they decide it is in the Public’s best interest, without vote or consideration of the land owner. The most disturbing thought is that we have people who have been serving in Washington and the military for 20 plus years. Why have none of them done any thing to fight for it? The obvious fact would be they do not think we can make decisions for ourselves, or as we give up our freedoms the power over us increases and they like the power. I would like to see anyone who has knowingly compromised the Constitution pay back every dime they were paid and put in jail. The device of control they so carefully implemented.

I have yet to meet anyone who says they know all the laws, even Lawyers going to school for 8 years or more only learn to specialize in one area. Our Republic was not intended to repress or control every aspect of our life. Freedom should mean Free. Free choice, right or wrong, is ours to make. We as the People of a Free Republic, looking out for each other in common respect, would not need tomes of law to live in peace. We need to know we are not a capitalist democracy. We do not need our government to dictate how we live, think, believe, behave or raise our families.
Here is am interesting fact about our legal system: Alaska has 683,000 for a total population. Texas has 706,000 in their correction system. Almost the entire population of one state resides in the correctional system of another. The overall budget for the national prison system is 52.4 billion (2006). Once a person enters into the system there is a 90% repeat offender rate. It does not look as though the correction system is working!

I am a Soldier sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution; I will spend the rest of my life doing so. I have read and reread the Constitution. It is very clear as to our role in World politics. It is to trade but not to interfere with the internal politics of other countries. We have 106 bases outside the U.S. securing our interests. We are given live ammunition and the right to apprehend anyone trying to cross someone else’s border but not our own. Try if you can to imagine, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran, Russia, France or any other nation having one of their bases in the U.S. When I look up the definition of terrorist, then look at our behavior world wide and internally, I see true terrorism. We the people have let down our founding fathers. We the people have to make it right. Congress, down to your local townships, must understand we are in charge. Write letters, form groups, learn the Supreme Law, and push to implement it. No law maker any were at any level can write a law that is in conflict to the Constitution. This includes the military. No regulation that removes rights is Constitutional, only congress can govern us. They were not given the right to govern us out side of the Constitution. I am very disappointed with the unprofessional silent obedience the officers have demonstrated over the years, for us to get to this point the military, law enforcement, politicians and the courts have all failed to do there civil service. For more than a hundred years we have let things go, without a doubt it will take time to correct.

One more thing, just to ponder on. A small group working for GM developed an electric car called the EV1. They built 4000 of these then leased them to people in California for 4 years. Not one person who had them had any complaints about the car or its performance. At the termination of the lease GM refused to sell the cars to the customers. GM sent an employee to the scrap yard to insure every one of them went through the shredder, not just crushed but shredded. With the lack of maintenance and repair, the car would not be able to be sold for enough to make the same profits as the inefficient internal combustion engine. Big business has gotten out of control we must wake up and take our republic back. Anyone who is not willing to fight even die for their freedom does not deserve freedom and should consider leaving. I will gladly stand side by side with anyone fighting for freedom, and a fight is coming.

If you do not know the truth then you need to. If you do, why have you not taken steps to correct what you know is wrong? I will be spending all my time and effort to educate as many people as I can. You should all be doing the same. Please help us, help each other, please help yourselves. The consequences of doing nothing would be catastrophic.


Sincerely Patriot and Servant,
David Williams

In reply to this comment by GreatBird:
Ok, thats not the worst looking alternative fuel car. Isn't the problem with hydrogen powered cars that we don't have access to reserves of pure hydrogen on Earth. We have to extract it from forms of hydrocarbons like natural gas which uses energy and has byproducts carbon monoxide, so the efficiency and cleanliness isn't really that good.

Yes, Hydrogen cars are not the best option because of the reasons you stated. Electric cars would be my primary choice so long as it had a secondary method as a backup in case it would be impossible to recharge the vehicle. I just posted this because it seems that many of the vehicle manufacturers are pushing for Hydrogen vehicles as a potential solution. Just about every major manufacturer has come up with similar Hydrogen cars for the year 2008.

There is a car manufacturer in Canada that is making some nice Electric cars and the EV1 was an outstanding electric vehicle. They were put under pressure by the petro and parts sales divisions to eliminate their electric vehicle line which is unfortunate and just goes to show how much power the petrolium industry has over us.

GM just came out with an electric hybrid that seems very interesting and it will still allow them to charge us for fuel and replacement parts which seems to be their main concern.

http://www.videosift.com/video/GM-Electric-Concept-Car-Unveiled-at-2007-Detroit-Auto-Show
http://www.videosift.com/video/Electric-Car-The-Chevy-Volt