When Melissa McCarthy gets it right, she really gets it right. Some films lately have been disappointing, but The Heat is still one of my favourite buddy cop movies.

Now that's a buddy cop movie I could watch

A better title might be "The Ending of Every TBS Cop Movie Ever."

I find it difficult to disagree or agree with him, not on the historical context he gives which I don't know much about but on the principle. I would presume in the vast majority of regions in the US, institutional racism simply doesn't exist any more. Sure, there's the crackpot here and there who's openly racist, there's the few here and there that harbor racist thoughts but on the whole it's simply not there.


Study after study have proven this is not true, both in the private and public domains. I'm speaking about overt and institutional racism. Heck, they just codified a racial profiling and banned ethnic studies in Arizona.


I think the Civil Rights Act as it was, applying to both public and private entities served a purpose. It made people come together and realize that much of the animosity was more fear of the unknown and a lack of intercommunication between two cultures that had simply grown apart. Heck, there's a whole litany of (terrible) black/white buddy cop movies that symbolize bridging this gap.

In the South, there had always been interpersonal communications and relationships between individuals of different races. The problem was the discrimination,i.e., forced to give up your seat for whites, not being able to use the restroom in certain parts of the city, being banned from attending most Universities, etc.

So I don't think that it was really the legislation that changed the state of society but the effect that forcing two cultures to become accustomed to each other had on perceptions.

The civil rights act didn't just magically change the country when it was passed. It took years of enforcement and civil agitation to bring the spirit of the law into reality. The legislation was a crucial step, though.

As it is now, I think in the vast majority of regions he is right, businesses who if given the chance would exclude black people, would be shooting themselves in the foot.

May I assume you have the luxury of not having to take that risk?

Not to mention, ultimately given that most people today aren't racist, as a minority would you want to inadvertently end up working under someone who is racist?

In a world where one both has to eat, and is a minority, what is desired is not to change the hearts of the whole country, but to be hired. I think that a significant amount of people in the US are racist, you think they aren't, but ultimately, it all about ensuring behavior (e.g., hiring, service) fits the law, not someone's thoughts.

I find it difficult to disagree or agree with him, not on the historical context he gives which I don't know much about but on the principle. I would presume in the vast majority of regions in the US, institutional racism simply doesn't exist any more. Sure, there's the crackpot here and there who's openly racist, there's the few here and there that harbor racist thoughts but on the whole it's simply not there.

I think the Civil Rights Act as it was, applying to both public and private entities served a purpose. It made people come together and realize that much of the animosity was more fear of the unknown and a lack of intercommunication between two cultures that had simply grown apart. Heck, there's a whole litany of (terrible) black/white buddy cop movies that symbolize bridging this gap. So I don't think that it was really the legislation that changed the state of society but the effect that forcing two cultures to become accustomed to each other had on perceptions. As it is now, I think in the vast majority of regions he is right, businesses who if given the chance would exclude black people, would be shooting themselves in the foot. Not to mention, ultimately given that most people today aren't racist, as a minority would you want to inadvertently end up working under someone who is racist?

Much of the campaigning against gay rights tries to tap into this same fear and misunderstanding. Think of that vague 'a storm is gathering' ad campaign, or the notion that legalising gay marriage will encourage homosexuality or even lead directly to bestiality or polygamy: fear mongering or patently ridiculous for anyone grounded in reality but potentially highly plausible for someone who has grown up in a very religiously fundamentalist region.

"This was their idea... of a townie mullet, 94 feet long and powered with an "88" hairdresser. Just what you need, right after a Beverly Hills Cop movie."

I think this guy has seen too many 70s cop movies.

I thought this was that Mall Cop movie.

Looks fairly stupid to me. I'll probably see it anyway, just to hate it.

Ok, funny vid. But in defense of this movie (which I have no intention of seeing) there are a LOT of plots that get done over and over. In the male genres, there's buddy cop movies, road trip movies, most action movies, horror movies are all the same... Of course guys don't mind those movies getting made over and over because they're cool. And this movie isn't.

I kinda feel sad for Patrick Dempsey. Such a good looking guy, and he can't get a part in a decent film. Freedom Writers, Enchanted, and now Made of Honor! It's sad.

I'm not debating that - I agree, Israel is very different than the US, and yes, I do believe that proper training is necessary and should be mandatory for gun owners. Furthermore, the story I linked to is anecdotal at best. I'm not at all trying to argue that, if students were allowed to carry guns on campus, the VA Tech school massacre would definitely have gone differently. And of course the problem is symptomatic of much deeper sociopolitical issues. (Aren't they all?) That's not the point.

My link was in direct answer to Dag's question: "In the VA school massacre, do people honestly think..."

My answer is, yes some people do honestly think that the VA school massacre could have ended better if students had had guns, and I think it's folly not to understand people see such a story as proof that a different ending is possible at the very least, outside the realm of terrible cop movies.