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Maria Bamford is hilarious

hpqp says...

Maria Bamford is a comedy genius and one very strong woman. Check out "The Maria Bamford Show" in which she revisits her depressive breakdown in a hilarious and touching manner.

Rape in Comedy: Why it can be an exception (Femme Talk Post)

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

Why is this? Surely the intent matters. Take Ann Coulter, for instance. She often couches the ridiculous stuff she says in humor. Now the humor isn't usually very good, but suppose it was. Would that somehow magically make the content of what she is saying OK?


You're missing the point. Of course the intent matters. The intent goes to whether it's funny. Nothing Ann Coulter says can be funny because she's a fucking idiot. On the other hand, Stephen Colbert could repeat an exact speech of hers verbatim and be hilarious.

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

If she's using humor to promulgate an ignorant and bigoted worldview, we can still call her out on the ignorance and bigotry.


Yep and that's exactly what we do. I want to break this down a bit.

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

If she's using humor....


I would replace "using humor" with "attempting to use humour".

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

... to promulgate an ignorant and bigoted worldview...


and that's the point. Coulter isn't funny because she actually believes the vile crap she's espousing. If someone makes a joke about rape and actually believes that rape is in anyway acceptable.... that's not funny. If someone is using a joke about a horrific situation to make you think or take you to such an uncomfortable place that your only escape is to laugh at it, that's comedy genius.


>> ^Sotto_Voce:

Patrice O'Neal is a more pertinent example, and I talked about this in the other thread. He was a genuinely funny guy, and in his act (and elsewhere) he said a lot of horrible things about women. The thing is, he actually meant a lot of that stuff. Even his close friends admit that he was an actual misogynist. Does the fact that he was also funny somehow make his misogyny inoffensive?


I don't really want to comment on this because I'm not really familiar with O'Neals work or life. But let's assume for the sake of argument that what you say is true. It's possible to be really funny and still say unfunny things. If he was genuinely promoting misogyny is some of his material, did you still find it funny?

Personally, if something feels that wrong to me, I find it hard to see humour in it.

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

Also, I think there are two separate points to consider here that some people (not necessarily you) are getting mixed up: (1) Are rape jokes funny?, (2) Are rape jokes offensive? The answer to both questions is "Some of them are." And the thing is, sometimes the exact same joke can be both funny and offensive. These properties can coexist.


I don't really believe so. A funny joke can be shocking, uncomfortable or even borderline offensive, but if you're actually laughing at something, the joke itself was not sufficiently offensive to become unfunny.

>> ^Sotto_Voce:

Even if Tosh's joke had been hilarious (which it obviously wasn't) it still would have been really dickish, and I still would have thought that he ought to make a genuine apology to the woman if he is a decent human being.


To me, it's about your own moral compass. Toshs joke wasn't funny precisely because there was only dickishness to a relatively innocent victim (I say relatively because she went to his show, it's not like he's an unknown).

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An Idiot Abroad - Congress Tart!

Yogi says...

>> ^robbersdog49:

Karl Pilkington is a comedy genius, it's as simple as that. I've never seen anyone so apparently inadvertently funny. He doesn't seem to think about it, he just is hilarious.


Yes he is and watching the Ricky Gervais Show I wanted Ricky to Shut the Fuck Up most of the time. He would constantly stop Karl thinking and saying things and it was soo amazingly annoying I couldn't take it.

An Idiot Abroad - Congress Tart!

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The Angel of Death sketch

TDS 3/29/10 - Moment of Zen

Raaagh says...

<quote>In episodes hosted by Steve Martin and Demi Moore, she sang and danced on the Weekend Update desk. After many such appearances, Jackson began to read a poem, but stopped and said in a low, throaty voice, "I can't do this Victoria 'airhead' thing anymore." She then removed her blonde wig to reveal a short brunette wig, announcing that she could not believe people thought that her goofy routine was for real, and that she would be doing serious political commentary on the show from that point onward.</quote>
-wikipedia
She is a comedy genius?

Conan O'Brien sticks it up to NBC and Jay Leno

Xaielao says...

Yes I do believe it is sincere as well. Once Conan is gone I'll never watch Late Night again until Leno leaves (when he's 75.) Yes I am boycotting Leno.

Conan ftw. Frankly I hope he moves to Comedy Central at midnight, so we can have a trifecta of comedy genius. Though personally I don't think he'll go on to do more evening comedy. He's got a huge fan base and a lot of support from his fellows. What ever he does do he's sure to rock at it.

Oh and, move back to NYC Conan. It's where you belong.

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