In retrospect, I think Assange should have made an effort to only release information that revealed corruption or wrongdoing. I don't see much point in leaking classified information just for the sake of releasing classified information. Less wikileaks, more wikiwhistleblowing. Were there any other major bombshells other than the 'Collateral Murder' video? And what ever happened to those supposed leaks that were to bring Bank of America to its knees? Daniel Ellsberg he is not.

>> ^Shepppard:

Sorry Jig, awareness or not, I don't really feel this should be on the sift.
Post a news story about it, get the message out. Don't post the actual video.
Your title is misleading, I came in thinking this was going to be something funny (there's another video of a single druggie trying to fight a bunch of cops, but he's "girl" hitting them.) And because I didn't read the text first I saw something I never want to see again.
The message should get out, but videosift is not the medium for this.


Who died and made you the guy who makes decisions....YEAH!

Despite being a moron Shepppard is right about one thing the Title. It could've been much clearer and done in a way that could've shown more respect for this serious incident. I think we should have a "kill" tag or something like that. It's not something some of us want to have anything to do with when we check out our sift, I pass by a lot of videos because the descriptions are obviously something I don't want to see. However I believe having them available is a good idea...just like the Wikileaks collateral murder video which took me about a year to actually get up the guts to watch.

No. It's not a crime. Manning committed the crime. Then he blabbed about it and is getting what he deserves.

Not until he hangs will Manning 'get what he deserves'. But I doubt we have the balls to hang traitors anymore.

Assange's crime is taking those classified documents as well as classified diplomatic cables and making them available to a wider audience, including America's enemies. Corporate espionage and the rest is another matter and another set of crimes.

Uncovering secrets is what real journalism is all about.

The American mainstream libmedia gave up journalism long ago. Now the useful idiots just carry water for taxocrats and the left.

What's going on here is pure fucking evil perpetrated by the incestuous marriage of business and politics.

Which has been going on since the beginning of human history. And really, how much of THE TRUTH changes things? It was known well before Tim Geithner was made Secretary of the Treasury he was a m0therfcking TAX CHEAT. Did anyone care? Apparently not.

When it comes to shining a light on the truth that none of you fucks are free, the cables, the collateral murder video and all the rest is nothing compared to the reaction to them, by business and politics.

It's the people screaming "You are not free" who have even more tyrannical plans for the human race. There's nothing more common than "revolutionaries" adopting the same tactics and principles of the "oppressors" they overthrow. And so: yawn.

It used to be common sense that to maintain freedom and order, things like military operational readiness, technology and war plans and even diplomatic secrets should be hidden from the prying eyes of our enemies. I'm sure the Germans wished for American "transparency" about D-Day and the Japanese (Happy December 7th!) about our atom bomb programs.

For attacking the USA the wikiclown should be considered fair game. He claims to be an "anarchist" so I'm sure he'll enjoy his fate.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Fencing stolen information? You mean publishing whistleblower documents?
Assangle published the finook traitor's stolen classified documents. That's a crime.
You should check out dystopianfuturetoday's video about that. It's even broadcast on your favorite news station.
You mean America's favorite news station?
A foreign enemy like bin laden? If he would, he'd have been free for at least 10 more years.
The wikiclown isn't a diaperheaded billionaire with a network of jihadist vermin. But it sure looks like he could've used a spidey hole about now.


No. It's not a crime. Manning committed the crime. Then he blabbed about it and is getting what he deserves.

Uncovering secrets is what real journalism is all about.

What's going on here is pure fucking evil perpetrated by the incestuous marriage of business and politics.

When it comes to shining a light on the truth that none of you fucks are free, the cables, the collateral murder video and all the rest is nothing compared to the reaction to them, by business and politics.

While I agree with both of you that editing politically sensitive documents is sketchy...

1) They did also release the unedited version.

2) I will trust them as long as they continue to supply unedited versions of their edited documents.

3) If one day they edit something so as to hide relevant information, then they will lose my trust. Their editing of the collateral murder video is innocent, no?

4) If they are truly trying to spread truth, then better that they provide the edited versions, as opposed to them releasing tedious documents that will be unscrupulously edited by liars and agents of misinformation.

>> ^alizarin:

>> ^Crake:
RT is not Reuters, but 'Russia Today', not quite as reputable afaik. Tag change plz?

1) The story is about Reuters reporters being shot, that's what the tag is about I'm sure.
2) Does reputability come into it if it's an isolated interview?


Oooh right... hadn't thought that far. But yes, reputability is pretty important in any case, but the RT logo is right there on the screen I guess, so it's not a biggie.

>> ^Crake:

RT is not Reuters, but 'Russia Today', not quite as reputable afaik. Tag change plz?


1) The story is about Reuters reporters being shot, that's what the tag is about I'm sure.
2) Does reputability come into it if it's an isolated interview?