^ also, gwiz thinks Lost is quality television.

Fun fact, btw: all of my BSG-watching friends think 'Black Market' was a "pretty good" episode, even the ones that don't agree with me on how decent the finale was.

>> ^Deano:
I'm not one for technical detail and consistency - it doesn't really matter when what's always impressed about BSG is solid acting, great characters and top drama.

I loved the acting, characters, and drama also. But since when did plot not matter? The story of BSG was really damned good for the most part. Is it asking too much for the story to make sense? For beginnings to have endings? In my opinion, they promised so much, and failed to deliver when it came time.

Yes, Lost is worth it. If you rent season 1 and season 2 and you aren't hooked after that, then you are not human.

It does fall a bit flat in season 3, but season 5 has been pretty awesome.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Yeah, it's worth it. The miniseries and first two seasons are great (although there are a handful of horrible episodes scattered throughout, including one called 'Black Market' which is probably the worst episode evar). Season 3 starts out pretty amazingly, as an allegory for the occupation of Iraq, where we actually empathize with 'insurgents' and even suicide bombers.

After that conflict resolves, the show begins its decent into the toilet, and the bad episodes outnumber the good ones by a healthy margin. If you make it that far, you'll probably want finish it out, but the ending is a complete let down. The writers completely lose there discipline in the 3rd and 4th seasons, and all of the logic of the BSG universe goes out the window. In the end, none of the mysteries or plot contrivances are tied up in any kind of satisfying way.

At least Netflick the miniseries and 1st season, and watch it with your girl.

I've not seen any of lost. Should I check that out?

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, I haven't watched BSG yet, but it seems like people are ticked about the ending. Is it worth watching the four or five seasons of BSG? Or is it a let down?

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Let's hope the Muppets actually stick to their plan.

Yeah, it's worth it. The miniseries and first two seasons are great (although there are a handful of horrible episodes scattered throughout, including one called 'Black Market' which is probably the worst episode evar). Season 3 starts out pretty amazingly, as an allegory for the occupation of Iraq, where we actually empathize with 'insurgents' and even suicide bombers.

After that conflict resolves, the show begins its decent into the toilet, and the bad episodes outnumber the good ones by a healthy margin. If you make it that far, you'll probably want finish it out, but the ending is a complete let down. The writers completely lose there discipline in the 3rd and 4th seasons, and all of the logic of the BSG universe goes out the window. In the end, none of the mysteries or plot contrivances are tied up in any kind of satisfying way.

At least Netflick the miniseries and 1st season, and watch it with your girl.

I've not seen any of lost. Should I check that out?

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, I haven't watched BSG yet, but it seems like people are ticked about the ending. Is it worth watching the four or five seasons of BSG? Or is it a let down?

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Let's hope the Muppets actually stick to their plan.

So, I haven't watched BSG yet, but it seems like people are ticked about the ending. Is it worth watching the four or five seasons of BSG? Or is it a let down?

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Let's hope the Muppets actually stick to their plan.

Hilarious article concerning the BSG finale from the Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_depressed_distant_since?utm_source=a-section

"I'm a little concerned," first lady Michelle Obama was overheard saying at a fundraising event Tuesday. "When Firefly was canceled, he walked around like a zombie for a week, and Serenity was the only thing that snapped him out of it. Last night he said he felt like he had just discovered David Axelrod was one of the Final Five, whatever that means."

"When we spoke last month, he said season three was his least favorite because some of the episodes with Helo and the Sagittarons—and pretty much anything that involved Cally—were boring and didn't advance the plot," Afghan president Hamid Karzai said. "But I told him that when you watch it all on DVD, and you don't have to wait a whole week for a new show, those peripheral episodes actually add new color to the already established world."

I just finished the torrents in the early hours and I loved it and respected the way the show ended.
I'm not one for technical detail and consistency - it doesn't really matter when what's always impressed about BSG is solid acting, great characters and top drama. Even in this respect it wasn't always brilliant but it's been so ballsy and ambitious in tackling serious issues that you could forgive any roughness around the edges. The mutiny for example felt slightly compressed at around one and a half episodes but the emotional payoff was worth it.

I suppose the confirmation of god and angels might irk us atheists but it means we don't have to live with some whacked out explanation of what was happening to Gaius.

In fact from my sleep-addled perspective events seemed to link nicely back into the various themes and prophesies. Was absolutely everything tied off in a nice bow? No, as an intelligent show it doesn't need to, this isn't Star Trek. And happy endings all round should not have been expected either.

Yet it managed to be quite touching. Out of nowhere Gaius' words about being good at farming caused me to tear up as the memory of his father came flooding back.

Is that where BSG got the whole 13 colonies thing? That went right over my head, wonder what else I missed... Starbuck looked like a girl what was that about?

I figure moving from a corrupt monarchy without representation to a democracy with it, is self evidently legitimate. Or something.

I enjoyed BSG overall, but the idea of everyone in the fleet suddenly saying screw technology, lets destroy the fleet and get back to a short back breaking life of prehistoric subsistence agriculture in isolated homesteads dotted around a wilderness planet, struck me as laughable, only I wasnt laughing.

As one who got to watch the finale with the cast and crew of BSG, I loved it.

Begin flaming in five, four, three...

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Well, I'm still in the middle of season 3 of BSG - but I'm enjoying the storyline in Terminator much more. The last episode on the submarine was very good and I'm enjoying how they are starting to tie-in to the storyline of the upcoming movie. ... And also Summer Glau.

Well, BSG is like bold and beautiful in space(i.e. spacecrap(oh how fun and futile it is to fight about taste, right?)). And looks like someone(kronosposeidon) is crying for SIMPSONS DID IT, which is rather weak

Simpsons never was nor will be as funny as Family Guy(well, not to me anyway(opinions, opinions...).

BSG > Terminator? When hell freezes over! They're on opposite ends of the spectrum (with Terminator on the bottom), as far as the acting, story, casting... everything really, is concerned.

BSG's more "sensitive" moments didn't come off as cheesy to me, for the most part. Aside from that damned "so say we all" bullshit, and Adama's "inspirational" speeches he likes to make every now and then.

Yeah, it's no BSG, and definitely targets a different audience. Still, I'll give it a go and hope for the best.

>> ^Farhad2000:
Also know as the 'Lost' ending.


Now now, we're still a ways off from seeing Lost do that. When we do, it means we get to see Jennifer Love Hewitt on the show when Jack wakes up on the set of Party of Five, and that might make it okay.