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Epic Rap Battles of History 10: Billy Mays vs Ben Franklin

Lawdeedaw jokingly says...

>> ^hpqp:

Someone tell me I'm not the only one who had to google Billy Mays?


OMG! Just noticed this comment! Yes, you are. He was a god here in the states. Mohammad, Jesus, Zeus, the Prince symbol, and Billy Mays! I don't think we can be friends anymore hpqp.

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Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

Xaielao says...

I love how in the end he's comparing the Christian God to Zeus and saying that if you went back in time you'd have people saying the same thing about Zeus as they do about God today and they all emphatically disagree, but at the same time the look on all their faces says 'I've never thought of it that way, that Zeus was the God to people in ancient times and our God is the same to us' lol. But isn't that typical with Christians? They all live in this tiny little box where everyone completely agrees, and the vast majority of them have 'never' thought outside that box. When they are confronted with facts such as the Jesus story is extremely similar and mirrors that of other head gods in a myriad other religions going back thousands of years before Jesus Christ himself, they clearly falter.

I find in my own personal experience that it is very rare that I have ever met a 'very' religious Christian who actually had thought about these things, had thought about things outside their own indoctrination and still have faith. In fact the one and only person I've met who actually asked those questions had a stronger faith because of them. I said at the time more power to him. But for me, Jesus is a myth and thats the end of the story.

Edit: Had to add, the guy who talked about all the historical and scientific evidence that Jesus was real is full of this. The earliest writings we have (about 50 years after his supposed death) speak of him as a spirit, not a living man. And there is absolutely no actual scientific evidence beyond biblical writings that the man ever existed in the first place, and modern biblical writings are about as far from 'fact' as one can get.

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

messenger says...

He's not avoiding anything. The common direct answer to that question from an atheist would be, "I would need empirical evidence, and God would become a scientific fact. Any reasonable people, such as yourselves, would be able to determine individually that he's real, and there would be no controversy." Done. But then they'd continue with something like, "Give us one example of something you would accept as empirical evidence of God's existence." And on it would go until he'd satisfied their question completely. Then they'd counter with the, "Belief in God doesn't require direct evidence, and the lack of it doesn't disprove his existence." trope.

Why does this happen? The question wasn't posed because anybody on that panel cares what would change Mr. Silverman's mind. It was posed to show the audience that he is a determined God hater due to his own faith, and nothing to do with a lack of evidence at all. In other words, the question is a rhetorical one that says the common atheist answer of "evidence" is a dodge to avoid admitting that they're just as faithful. Silverman's tactic, instead of wasting all that time arriving nowhere, is to put all religious people watching in his shoes. The point is that if you, personally, have ample reason to believe that something is purely a myth (Zeus, Santa Claus, God), then asking what it would take for you to believe the myth is true is a nonsensical question.

Like someone earlier in the thread already pointed out, this is not his first rodeo.>> ^smooman:

"your belief that there is no god, is a belief about god that you cannot prove or disprove ... what is your proof that if there is a god that he would leave you empirical proof of his existence/what would be sufficient proof?"
"my question to you to answer your first question is would you be sure there is no santa claus, are you sure there's no zeus"
while thats a fair question to ask, you still didnt answer her question. And turning that question around and asking them what would be sufficient proof to believe in zeus. still. doesnt. answer. the. question. its just beating around the bush. its dodging. its misdirection.
kind of reminds me of the whose line is it anyway sketch where they have conversations made entirely of questions

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

enoch says...

>> ^smooman:

"your belief that there is no god, is a belief about god that you cannot prove or disprove ... what is your proof that if there is a god that he would leave you empirical proof of his existence/what would be sufficient proof?"
"my question to you to answer your first question is would you be sure there is no santa claus, are you sure there's no zeus"
while thats a fair question to ask, you still didnt answer her question. And turning that question around and asking them what would be sufficient proof to believe in zeus. still. doesnt. answer. the. question. its just beating around the bush. its dodging. its misdirection.
kind of reminds me of the whose line is it anyway sketch where they have conversations made entirely of questions


thats not dodging.
the question itself is a false equivalent.
what the man was trying to convey is the fact that these people believe in their religion.the thought of believing in zeus is silly to them,yet they believe in their religion as being true.
he is trying to illuminate the circular logic and these people just do not get it because they are people of faith but ONLY of one faith,to believe in zeus,thor or wodin is ridiculous.

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

smooman says...

"your belief that there is no god, is a belief about god that you cannot prove or disprove ... what is your proof that if there is a god that he would leave you empirical proof of his existence/what would be sufficient proof?"

"my question to you to answer your first question is would you be sure there is no santa claus, are you sure there's no zeus"

while thats a fair question to ask, you still didnt answer her question. And turning that question around and asking them what would be sufficient proof to believe in zeus. still. doesnt. answer. the. question. its just beating around the bush. its dodging. its misdirection.

kind of reminds me of the whose line is it anyway sketch where they have conversations made entirely of questions

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

yellowc says...

He uses Zeus (and other older myths) because it is the least offensive mythology to show sympathy towards. If he used Islam then he'd just be labelled a terrorist sympathiser. This is not his first rodeo.>> ^PoweredBySoy:

Wow he handled that amazingly well. Instead of so much Zeus and mythology though, I would have loved to see him stay in the present and ask those same questions about Allah or Vishnu...

Silverman in the pit of stupidity on Fox News

The Sean Bean Death Reel

poolcleaner says...

Also, it's important to check out the Youtube comments and the video uploader's description. If you did that, you'd know his non-dying performances outweigh his dying performances. Someone did all that work and now you don't need to: http://www.compleatseanbean.com/deathbycow.html

HE DIES IN:
Airborne - bye bye Toombs
Caravaggio - Rannuccio gets his throat slashed
Clarissa - Lovelace is skewered by Sean Pertwee
Don't Say a Word - Patrick Koster is buried alive
Equilibrium - Death by Poetry - Partridge is blasted away by Christian Bale while reading Yeats
Essex Boys - Jason Locke meets a nasty end in a Range Rover
Far North - Loki is frozen. Naked. In the snow. A chilling end if there ever was one.
The Field - the infamous Death by Cow - Tadgh falls over a cliff, pursued by a herd of stampeding cows
GoldenEye - Alec Trevelyan falls a long way down and is crushed by a satellite dish thing
Henry VIII - Robert Aske meets a gruesome end
The Island - Death by Clone. Merrick is shot in the throat by a nasty grabber thingy with a sharp
hook and a cable that gets wrapped around his neck, and while he's struggling with Lincoln
Six-Echo, the catwalk they're on collapses, and Merrick ends up dangling by the neck. Currently
the most creative dispatch of Sean's career. Definitely well hung.
The Lord of the Rings (The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King) - Death
by Orc. Boromir. Arrows. Need I say more?
Lorna Doone - Carver Doone drowns
Outlaw - Dead Dead Dead. Was there ever any question? Dead.
Patriot Games - Sean Miller is beaten up, boathooked and finally blown up by Harrison Ford
Scarlett - Lord Fenton is dispatched
Tell Me That You Love Me - Gabriel Lewis is stabbed by Laura. Or he stabs himself. We're not
quite sure about this one, actually.
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion - Death by summoning a god's avatar. Martin Septim (the son of the Emperor, aka The Lost Heir) meets his X-Box end when he attempts to save the world.
The Hitcher - Surely you jest. You need to ask? (There were two different versions filmed. He dies
in both of them.)
War Requiem - The German Soldier dies, but returns in the afterlife


HE LIVES IN:
(Leo Tolstoy's) Anna Karenina
A Woman's Guide to Adultery
The Big Empty
The Bill
Black Beauty
Bravo Two Zero
Exploits at West Poley
Extremely Dangerous
Faceless
The Fifteen Streets
Flightplan
Fool's Gold
How to Get Ahead in Advertising
In the Border Country
Inspector Morse: Absolute Conviction
Jacob
Lady Chatterley
The Loser
My Kingdom for a Horse
National Treasure (But only because of a rewrite. In an early version
of the the script Ian Howe got eaten by alligators in the subways of
New York. Really. Honest. I wouldn't lie to you. I wouldn't.)
North Country
Percy Jackson (Zeus is more or less an immortal so death seems a bit
redundant, really...)
The Practice
Pride
Prince
Punters
Ronin
Samson & Delilah
Sharpe (14 films)
Sharpe's Challenge
Shopping
Silent Hill
Small Zones
Stormy Monday
Tom & Thomas
Troubles
The Canterbury Tales - The Nun's Priest's Tale
The Dark
The True Bride
The Vicar of Dibley
Troy
Wedded
When Saturday Comes
Windprints
Winter Flight

Major Theatrical Performances:
Macbeth ... Yes. He dies. And gets his head impaled on a spike.
Romeo & Juliet... What do you think?
Fair Maid of the West ... Spencer doesn't die!

Man Struck Twice By Lightning

Are you a Possibilian? Probably

hpqp says...

*citation needed*

How can you assert that "they surely did a part"? I call BS unless you can provide some historical evidence.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^bobknight33:
Very interesting and worthy of watching. There is more than we don't know than we do know.

More to the point, how do we know what is known is truly known (by knowledge, I might right and true belief). Epistemology is my favorite philosophical topic

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/hpqp" title="member since July 25th, 2009" class="profilelink">hpqp
Many of the Greek city states pledge to a Patron God: Poseidon at Corinth, Hera at Argos, Zeus at Kos, Athene at Sparta, Tegea and Athens. Different parts of the Nile also had the same type of Patronage. It is debatable how much of a role they played in war, but they surely did a part.

Are you a Possibilian? Probably

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^bobknight33:

Very interesting and worthy of watching. There is more than we don't know than we do know.


More to the point, how do we know what is known is truly known (by knowledge, I might right and true belief). Epistemology is my favorite philosophical topic


@hpqp

Many of the Greek city states pledge to a Patron God: Poseidon at Corinth, Hera at Argos, Zeus at Kos, Athene at Sparta, Tegea and Athens. Different parts of the Nile also had the same type of Patronage. It is debatable how much of a role they played in war, but they surely did a part.

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