>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^MaxWilder:
You really can't blame the cops for this. They get their orders from higher up the food chain, from people who are struggling with budgets every day. It's the lawmakers who are encouraging (or at least allowing) this kind of ridiculous behavior. If seized money went to drug rehab centers or something like that, the shakedowns would stop. And of course, lawmakers would have to fund the cops from normal taxes, which they would prefer to spend on their pet projects.
Ultimately, it's the people of the state who must demand changes to the laws, and that's unlikely because the cops target out-of-state plates. Perhaps if this starts to impact legit tourism or something, it might get a referendum. But since there are few legit reasons for carrying large quantities of cash, it's unlikely to change.
BTW, don't carry around large amounts of cash. That's stupid.

I agree with you on everything except the "can't blame the cops". "Just following orders" is no excuse for committing an injustice...

While I agree that "just following orders" is not a strong defense, it's not like they are committing war crimes. For the most part, it really is drug money they are seizing. Are they supposed to throw away their careers in order to try to change something that should be changed by the lawmakers and citizens who elect those lawmakers?


Throwing away? You really think they'd lose their entire career by making such policies known to the public, or talking to the press about it? I don't.

And even if they did...I chose not to work for employers who didn't meet at least the minimum of my ethical standards, and I have no reservations in believing others should do the same. If everyone did, we'd probably not be in the shithouse we find ourselves in these days.

>> ^Stormsinger:

>> ^MaxWilder:
You really can't blame the cops for this. They get their orders from higher up the food chain, from people who are struggling with budgets every day. It's the lawmakers who are encouraging (or at least allowing) this kind of ridiculous behavior. If seized money went to drug rehab centers or something like that, the shakedowns would stop. And of course, lawmakers would have to fund the cops from normal taxes, which they would prefer to spend on their pet projects.
Ultimately, it's the people of the state who must demand changes to the laws, and that's unlikely because the cops target out-of-state plates. Perhaps if this starts to impact legit tourism or something, it might get a referendum. But since there are few legit reasons for carrying large quantities of cash, it's unlikely to change.
BTW, don't carry around large amounts of cash. That's stupid.

I agree with you on everything except the "can't blame the cops". "Just following orders" is no excuse for committing an injustice...


While I agree that "just following orders" is not a strong defense, it's not like they are committing war crimes. For the most part, it really is drug money they are seizing. Are they supposed to throw away their careers in order to try to change something that should be changed by the lawmakers and citizens who elect those lawmakers?

>> ^MaxWilder:

You really can't blame the cops for this. They get their orders from higher up the food chain, from people who are struggling with budgets every day. It's the lawmakers who are encouraging (or at least allowing) this kind of ridiculous behavior. If seized money went to drug rehab centers or something like that, the shakedowns would stop. And of course, lawmakers would have to fund the cops from normal taxes, which they would prefer to spend on their pet projects.
Ultimately, it's the people of the state who must demand changes to the laws, and that's unlikely because the cops target out-of-state plates. Perhaps if this starts to impact legit tourism or something, it might get a referendum. But since there are few legit reasons for carrying large quantities of cash, it's unlikely to change.
BTW, don't carry around large amounts of cash. That's stupid.


I agree with you on everything except the "can't blame the cops". "Just following orders" is no excuse for committing an injustice...

Thanks a lot for the promote Dag!

In reply to this comment by dag:
This is awful. *promote

If they just traffic one side of the highway and only target out of state vehicles......

How's a smart drug smuggler going to handle that? He's going to use an in-state tagged vehicle until he gets through the state. Or buy something he can resell in another state for clean cash.

As for carrying large sums of money, it's common knowledge in my area that farmers do a significant amount of dealings in cash. They'll buy big ticket items or equipment, like 100 grand items entirely or divide it up between a big lump of cash and the rest on credit. They cross state lines to go to auctions, etc and carry sizable cash on them the day of. Admittedly other people do cash dealings, but farmers are guys who consistently do cash deals. Sometimes they even buy new stuff from the manufacturers for big discounts because they pay entirely in cash.

Also other reasons for cash: Semi drivers doing pickups on goods will sometimes deal in cash. This is why you see a lot of them parked on the side of the highway instead of at rest stops when they sleep for the day, because people will bust into their cab and rob em due to there being a good chance of them carrying cash. Let alone emptying their trucks while they sleep. Got an uncle who used to do interstate driving, he said when he woke up in the morning after sleeping at a truck stop...the experienced guys would never get out of the truck to use the restroom or whatever. They'd start their truck and drive a good distance down the highway then get out and inspect their truck for vandalism, tampering, or other issues. Just so they don't get cracked in the head while they are bent over checking tires.

So, basically these cops are straight up robbing people who have entirely non-drug related reasons to carry a lot of cash on them. It'll just end up that people will start routing around Tennessee if they are out of state and going to another state to avoid the hassle. Which means they won't get their fuel taxes (basically trucks are required to buy as much fuel as they use in each state and they check them periodically for receipts and proof), won't get the business of people stopping in the state, and might end up with people entirely avoiding delivering to TN at all...only dropping off near it and letting a local guy in TN come out of state to pick it up and bring it in. Which is another thing...in CA and other Southwestern states, if they need to ship something into Canada they use to take it down into Mexico and drop it off. Then let the Mexican trucks hook up to the load and take it back through the US and up into Canada...it ended up being cheaper and faster. Don't know if they've revised laws and what not to stop that, but a lot of truckers were pissed when their 100-200+ mile round trip ended up being a half day into mexico and back.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

>> ^rottenseed:
Wait so you want teachers to be able to say "gay", but I can't say "fag"...boy am I confused

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a8ac764340/louie-s-poker-scene


seen it...and that whole shit about "fag" coming from people burning homosexuals is incorrect.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=faggot

Remember, homosexuals can be zealots and misinformed as well.

seen it...and that whole shit about "fag" coming from people burning homosexuals is incorrect.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=faggot

Remember, homosexuals can be zealots and misinformed as well.
In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a8ac764340/louie-s-poker-scene

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Wait so you want teachers to be able to say "gay", but I can't say "fag"...boy am I confused

>> ^rottenseed:

Wait so you want teachers to be able to say "gay", but I can't say "fag"...boy am I confused

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a8ac764340/louie-s-poker-scene

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a8ac764340/louie-s-poker-scene

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Wait so you want teachers to be able to say "gay", but I can't say "fag"...boy am I confused

>> ^Lann:

So teachers shouldn't be talking about them there "gay" folk but can still beat a child with a paddle.
Yay Tennessee!

>> ^bareboards2:

Here is my second best New Orleans story -- first night there, I am sitting in a bar/restaurant, listening to a great classical jazz band, when I look out the huge plate glass window. Coming down the street .... A Bus Named Desire.
(Desire is the name of the neighborhood Stanley and Stella lived in; Streetcar named Desire was a streetcar headed to that destination.)
Next night, walking down Bourbon St and my attention is caught by a young man, blond, good-looking, who is clearly pissed at his trailing girlfriend. Total yuppy, wearing a pink Izod polo shirt and pastel Madras shorts. Yelling at his girlfriend to catch up: "Stella. Stella. STELLA."
I was happy. A bus named Desire and a yuppy yelling Stella.


LOL LOL I didn't know Stella was such a common name down south.

So teachers shouldn't be talking about them there "gay" folk but can still beat a child with a paddle.

Yay Tennessee!

No need to be confused.

We want teachers to be able to say "gay" when you say "fag."



>> ^rottenseed:

Wait so you want teachers to be able to say "gay", but I can't say "fag"...boy am I confused

Rank↓ State↓ 2009↓ 2008↓ 2007↓ 2004-2006↓
1 Maryland $79,272 $78,454 $78,725 $77,985
2 New Jersey $68,342 $70,378 $67,035 $64,169
3 Connecticut $67,034 $68,595 $65,967 $59,972
4 Alaska $66,953 $68,460 $64,333 $57,639
5 Hawaii $64,098 $67,214 $63,746 $60,681
6 Massachusetts $64,081 $65,401 $62,365 $56,236
7 New Hampshire $60,567 $63,731 $62,369 $60,489
8 Virginia $59,330 $61,233 $59,562 $55,108
District of Columbia $59,290 $57,936 $54,317 $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9 California $58,931 $61,021 $59,948 $53,770
10 Delaware $56,860 $57,989 $54,610 $52,214
11 Washington $56,548 $58,078 $55,591 $53,439
12 Minnesota $55,616 $57,288 $55,082 $57,363
13 Colorado $55,430 $56,993 $55,212 $54,039
14 Utah $55,117 $56,633 $55,109 $55,179
15 New York $54,659 $56,033 $53,514 $48,201
16 Rhode Island $54,119 $55,701 $53,568 $52,003
17 Illinois $53,966 $56,235 $54,124 $49,280
18 Nevada $53,341 $56,361 $55,062 $50,819
19 Wyoming $52,664 $53,207 $51,731 $47,227
20 Vermont $51,618 $52,104 $49,907 $51,622
United States $50,221 $52,029 $50,740 $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21 Wisconsin $49,993 $52,094 $50,578 $48,874
22 Pennsylvania $49,520 $50,713 $48,576 $47,791
23 Arizona $48,745 $50,958 $49,889 $46,729
24 Oregon $48,457 $50,169 $48,730 $45,485
25 Texas $48,259 $50,043 $47,548 $43,425
26 Iowa $48,044 $48,980 $47,292 $47,489
27 North Dakota $47,827 $45,685 $43,753 $43,753
28 Kansas $47,817 $50,177 $47,451 $44,264
29 Georgia $47,590 $50,861 $49,136 $46,841
30 Nebraska $47,357 $49,693 $47,085 $48,126
31 Maine $45,734 $46,581 $45,888 $45,040
32 Indiana $45,424 $47,966 $47,448 $44,806
33 Ohio $45,395 $47,988 $46,597 $45,837
34 Michigan $45,255 $48,591 $47,950 $47,064
35 Missouri $45,229 $46,867 $45,114 $44,651
36 South Dakota $45,043 $46,032 $43,424 $44,624
37 Idaho $44,926 $47,576 $46,253 $46,395
38 Florida $44,736 $47,778 $47,804 $44,448
39 North Carolina $43,674 $46,549 $44,670 $42,061
40 New Mexico $43,028 $43,508 $41,452 $40,827
41 Louisiana $42,492 $43,733 $40,926 $37,943
42 South Carolina $42,442 $44,625 $43,329 $40,822
43 Montana $42,322 $43,654 $43,531 $38,629
44 Tennessee $41,725 $43,614 $42,367 $40,676
45 Oklahoma $41,664 $42,822 $41,567 $40,001
46 Alabama $40,489 $42,666 $40,554 $38,473
47 Kentucky $40,072 $41,538 $40,267 $38,466
48 Arkansas $37,823 $38,815 $38,134 $37,420
49 West Virginia $37,435 $37,989 $37,060 $37,227
50 Mississippi $36,646 $37,790 $36,338 $35,261
Puerto Rico $17,500 $17,000

I was saying Boo-ooks.



Also I don't let my glasses stay empty for twenty minutes, but hey, if that's the way you roll then who am I to stand in the way of your effeminate ass? Maybe you should be drinking wine coolers.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Black coffee isn't sweet. That's a terrible analogy. Terrible. Terrible. Boo. Books.

But seriously, when I say bourbon I just mean Southern whiskey, so I mentally include Jack and Jim and all the the other ones. But you're right, there's a difference. I like Southern whiskey because the sweeter flavor is good on my palette. It's not super sweet, just slightly sweet to the taste. And if you finish a glass of neat whiskey (any type) and set the empty glass out for twenty minutes or so, you can smell the sweet notes or smokey notes. A good Woodford Reserve smells like vanilla.

Slightly oaky doesn't bother me at all. In fact, it gives whiskey a certain charm. I don't care for Scotch, because it's way too smokey. Though if I'm in Vegas and being a douche with a cigar, I'm drinking Scotch because it just works together.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I know bourbon is sweeter than scotch, but then a cup of black coffee is sweeter than scotch too. However, all bourbon is aged in charred oak barrels, and that does give it a hint of smoky flavor, which my sensitive palate can detect. That's why if I have to drink an American whiskey made mostly from corn I'll drink Tennessee whiskey, like Jack Daniels, because it's charcoal filtered. That helps remove a little more of the smoky flavor.

Fuck Kentucky and their fucking bourbon - unless I'm on a jag and there's nothing else around. I'll drink girly peppermint schnapps before bourbon, and that sweet, syrupy shit is pretty damn low on my list.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Now I know you're a Yankee. Bourbon isn't typically smokey. What bourbon are you drinking? It's typically made from mash and is sweeter.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Really? I kid about Canadian whiskey - Crown Royal, Pendleton, and Tangle Ridge are all great tasting, and even regular old Canadian Club and VO are pleasing to my palate. I know there are a few people out there who dismiss Canadian whiskey because they claim it's too 'light' in flavor, and for the cheap shit that's true. But a glass of good Canadian hooch, especially the higher end stuff like Gibson's and Wiser's, can stand toe to toe with whiskey made anywhere else on Earth, IMHO.

Scotch and bourbon both taste too smoky to me, but they'll do if there's nothing else around.
In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Lol, I've only had bourbon once and it didn't really impress me. I still haven't had any Canadian whiskey. Weird, eh?