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Burger King Employee Pranked To Break Windows

newtboy says...

Exactly.
Jobs that pay minimum wage are (at least according to most who oppose higher minimum wages) supposed to be for the brain dead, lazy, and/or 'the shunned' (like child molesters that can't get any other kind of job, no matter what their skill set).
Jobs that require more than average intelligence should absolutely pay better than minimum wage. Intelligence is a valuable (and rare) commodity.

iaui said:

Lol. Being paid a living wage shouldn't have anything to do with intelligence.

Lesbians Touch a Penis for the First Time. Yikes.

one of the many faces of racism in america

VoodooV says...

Yeah, no. That's pretty flimsy logic. We're all public figures if that's the case unless you manage to shun the internet completely and somehow manage to never offend anyone ever.

You're just reinforcing the notion that this is Internet vigilantism and McCarthyism-style witchhunting.

There's a reason that we only protect people from the effects of racism and that racism itself is not a crime. It's too subjective and open to interpretation and in no way could be judged fairly

HugeJerk said:

Unfortunately, when he went out and got his racism documented in the public, he became a public figure.

one of the many faces of racism in america

newtboy says...

Clarify. You have a problem with them having the right, or just a problem with they exorcising that right? Please explain the difference...as a right only exists if exorcised.
EDIT: You say you answered my question 'should they have the right to fire him', but I looked and can't find that answer. You answered 'they DO have the right', but never answered if you think they SHOULD have the right...which it seems you think they should not, because you have a 'problem' with them using that right....right?

For it to not be 'fair' for him to lose his job, you must assume he has a right to his job...he does not. It is absolutely fair to fire someone for any reason you see fit if you own or run the company...as happened here. What's the issue?

His family has not publicly shown a penchant towards racism or other intolerably intolerant behavior that I know of, they can probably find their own jobs.

Yes, it's OK, and normal, for future employers to investigate potential applicants and disqualify them if they show insanely poor judgement publicly like this guy did. You think that's not OK?

Should his wife divorce him...she probably agrees with him, but if not, perhaps she should. Being married to a racist, antagonistic idiot sounds terrible if you aren't one yourself.
Should his kids shun him, no, should they teach him at every opportunity how backwards his thinking is until he changes? Yes.
Should he die hungry and alone in an alley, no, no one should, but it happens none the less.

Laugh away and fictionalize if you wish, but the terms clearly apply.

I'm not hiring bad cops. If I were, I could put the resources in to investigate applicants for them. With 5 VS pages of 'bad cop', and 6 pages of 'police abuse' alone, it's quite a job, one I don't intend to take up to satisfy you, but I'm satisfied any competent HR person could find out just about anything they've done that might matter. If I felt like spending an hour doing it, I could find 99% of them on VS....I don't.
Often applicants are required to list their accounts (facebook, twitter, etc) so they can be looked at easily. And there are sites that record those sites so even erased posts can be investigated.
So yes, it's eternal, now isn't it? I won't remember this guy in less than a week, as there's no reason to, fortunately or unfortunately, employers have resources and reasons I don't.

I never said it was 'justice' that he would lose his job and be mostly unemployable forever, I said it was IRONIC, since he was lambasting people on the video for being 'lazy' and 'taking his tax dollars', which is what he'll be doing now. I agree, it's a little much that he's mostly unemployable for life now, but as I said, he just needs to find an employer that's willing to be labeled, at best, a racist sympathizer if not racist themselves...he should try Trump.

VoodooV said:

but now you're changing the question on me....^

one of the many faces of racism in america

VoodooV says...

but now you're changing the question on me.

First, you asked if the company should have the right, and I answered that. But now you're asking if I have a problem with it..and obviously, I do.

Fortunately, those two things don't conflict. Nuance is a bitch, ain't it?

And I didn't ask you if it was fair to expose people. I asked you if it was fair for the poor schlub who is probably already working paycheck to paycheck to LOSE HIS JOB over this nonsense. Public ridicule is one thing...losing one's livelyhood is quite another. Not only he will be hurt for a long time over this, but his family probably will be too.

And hey, let's take this to the logical conclusion. If it's ok for his current employer to fire him. Isn't it alright for his future employers to know about this? Let's make it so that this guy should never hold a job ever again. Should his wife divorce him over this? should his kids shun him? Should he die, hungry and alone in an alley? Where's the line here?

Don't use fictional terms like "free market" and "informed consumer" and apply them to RL. It's very laughable.

If what happens on the internet is so eternal, without looking, name all the names of ALL the bad cops who have killed unarmed people in all the bad cop videos you've posted on VS. Could you even spot them in a crowd? Those cops certainly have done far more damage than this racist has, so it should be easy.

Not so eternal, now is it? You won't remember this guy in less than a year.

You're confusing justice with revenge.

5 ways you are already a socialist

dannym3141 says...

<Skip if you're not interested in semantics.>
Stating your annoyance about how people use a word and arguing the semantics of the word only contributes towards clogging up the discussion with waffle and painfully detailed point-counterpoint text-walls that everyone loses interest in immediately. I'm going to do the sensible thing and take the meaning of socialism from what the majority of socialists in the world argue for; things like state control being used to counteract the inherent ruthlessness of the free market (i.e. minimum wage, working conditions, rent controls, holidays and working hours), free education, free healthcare (both paid for by contributions from those with means), social housing or money to assist those who cannot work or find themselves out of work... without spending too much time on the close up detail of it, that's roughly what i'll take it to mean and assume you know what i mean (because that's how the word IS used now, like it or not).
<Stop skipping now>

So without getting upset about etymology, I think a reasonable argument could be made for Jesus being a socialist:
- he believed in good will to your neighbour
- he spent time helping and caring for those who were shunned by society and encouraged others to do so too
- he considered greed to be a hindrance to spiritual enlightenment and/or a corrupting influence (easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle and all that)
- he healed and tended the sick for free
- he fed the multitude rather than send them to buy food for themselves
- he argued against worshiping false gods (money for example)

If we believe the stories.

I also think that a good argument could be made for Jesus not being a socialist. You haven't made one, but one could be made.

Marx is open to interpretation, so you're going to have to make your point about his quote clearer. I could take it to mean 4 or 5 different and opposing things.

Babymech said:

'Jesus' wasn't a socialist, though. The ideas in the Bible aren't socialist; it's just that people have sloppily started to associate socialism with vague ideas like sharing and being good to your fellow man. Socialism is a specific economic and ideological model for explaining and directing societal phenomena, and it's sort of annoying that it has been turned into either a spooky bugbear or an adorable care bear. There's a reason why Marx called religion the opium of the people.

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siftbot says...

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SDGundamX says...

Actually, Japanese kids learn about Unit 731, the rape of Nanking, and the issue of "comfort women" (though they are still not called by their proper term "sex slaves"). See here for more info.

What is controversial is that the right-wingers managed to get a textbook approved by the Ministry of Education that whitewashes Japan's military past--a textbook, by the way, that was shunned by almost every Board of Education in Japan (it was used by only 0.039% of the schools in Japan).

The notion that Japanese people are unaware of the crimes committed by the Japanese military during WWII is utterly false. As I mentioned, there are revisionist right-wingers out there who are actively working to change that but so far they have been unsuccessful.

Lawdeedaw said:

Japan tries to hide their breast mutilating, savage raping, mindless torturing of Chinese. In all honesty, if the Chinese government invaded, then murdered every politician and news venue that opposed teaching the true savagery of Japan's recent past, that would be 110% justified. In fact, it would be moral--since Japan is trying to sweep it under the rug in some morbid attempt to feel better.

Real Time with Bill Maher: The Duggars

newtboy says...

What seems mostly overlooked in this is, the molester has, for years, made his living by insisting that gay people are molesters and should be shunned and not have the rights heterosexual people do.
How can we still be fooled by these people? When a person demonizes another group and tries to deny them rights due to a behavior, invariably that person is 'guilty' of the offence they complain about.

Secondly, isn't having more than two children really a crime against the planet? In my eyes, too many people is the root reason for every problem the planet faces today, making 19+ more is criminally selfish and should be punished severly. I think the Chinese had it right with one family one child, and we have it 100% backwards by giving tax breaks for having more children.

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newtboy says...

It always confuses me how, as a society, we seem to think that prison is for punishment, and rehabilitation is now 100% the job of the convict, then we act like they have not yet 'paid their debt to society' and should continue to be shunned and punished when they get out of prison. We need to look at other cultures that treat people differently, and actually look at WHY they offended in the first place, and try to remedy those issues during incarceration and make them proper, productive citizens. Our system of punish, punish more, then add some permanent punishments, all while expecting the offenders to 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps' (bootstraps that were taken from them in prison) and, while enduring punishment, better themselves is just insane. They'll never be the people we want them to be if we keep putting obstacles in their way.

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

newtboy says...

I see (and love) what you did there. I wish I could double or triple upvote that comment.

While I totally get your point, and that's the only reason I used to engage these few people that come here to complain about tolerance, inclusion, or forced responsibility for one's own actions. That said, I came to the conclusions that replying to them is giving them the attention they seek, and more 'air time' for their ridiculous hateful ideals. If no one replied to them, they would quickly become a group of 4, passing hate speech back and forth to each other, but in their own little bubble, obviously shunned by the 'community' without being banished. That seems the best option available at this time, as their hateful, racist, misogynist, anti-(choose your minority) speech is seen as 'opinion' so it's considered to be (just barely) not rising to the level where they should be outright banned (not in my opinion, I think they crossed that line long ago, but mine is not the important opinion...just like in most other situations).
I now have them on ignore-plus (see the sift talk post), where I no longer see that they even exist...and I'm SOOOO much happier visiting the site now. It is an unpleasant side effect that now, some of their vocal detractors are silent (when it comes to them), but that also means they have far fewer to 'argue' with...meaning they post far less nonsense for 'noobs' to see, and will likely eventually move on when they stop getting any reaction (that's why they're here, for the negative reaction. There's a word for people who lurk on websites with the intent to upset other users...I just can't put my finger on it).

...and welcome back.

JustSaying said:

After months offline I just wanted some cat videos and now this...

You know, Bob, I think you are right. I may not be a US citizen but I think there should be an international law, enforced by the UN.
As a species we can not allow morally bankrupt people to define what marriage should be, especially if that definition is ethically questionable and radically diverging from what the Bible, Torah or Quran describe.
Not only are we subjected to this bizarre propaganda of how normal this sickening behaviour is, this agenda is being sold to children as well. Even if we ignore the risk factors and possible fallout from this dangerous interaction with our youth, I think we can't deny that letting somebody that unstable adopt children isn't the best of ideas.
As you point out, this minority has a strong grasp on the media and an even stronger grip around the neck of political systems around the globe. Even our economy isn't safe of their influence which everyone can see everytime they hurt american businesses with their boycotts. Like disgusting, entitled children, they throw tantrums everytime they don't get their will, no mattere what the cost.
You're right, mankind shouldn't capitulate to their demands. I say annul their existing marriages or domestic partnerships and make it illegal for those people to marry. Worldwide.
According to Wikipedia (yes, I know, Wikipedia) there are 7.2 billion humans on earth and the GOP has around 30 million members. That's only 0.4% of the world population. You're right. Why should any society capitulate for such an insignificant demographic group? Why should we allow republicans to marry or recognize their marriages as legally binding? Nobody needs them to procreate.
Having said that, as far as I'm concerned, George W. Bush is a bastard, even by westerosi standards.

Knife Types & Techniques with Alton Brown

TangledThorns says...

I saw this video last year and it motivated me to upgrade my old Sabatier knife set to a 8-piece Shun Premier knife set. The Shun Premier knives are beautiful and razor sharp but very delicate. I would only suggest those who have a lot of cooking experience and training buy Shun or any other expensive Japanese made knives. I still have my old Sabatier knife set for when we have guests over, lol.

Knife Types & Techniques with Alton Brown

kevingrr says...

My wife and I went from a hodge podge of dull knives (Ikea, Target, etc) to some Shun knives from our wedding.

I have to say it does make cooking easier and more enjoyable. Good technique is helpful with cheap or expensive knives.

If you take care of good knives they should last a lifetime.



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