The Baltimore Sun lets Bill Binney and Ray McGovern weigh in on the topic of hacking: Emails were leaked, not hacked

I don't fancy the lack of specificity in the use of "emails". There are no "emails" in this regard. There are the DNC emails, the Podesta emails, the Clinton server emails (incl Clinton SecState, Clinton GI, Clinton personal) -- did I miss any?

Clinton server emails were made public through FOIA requests directed at the FBI and later mirrored by WikiLeaks, Podesta emails were acquired through Podesta being a dumbass and falling for a rookie spear fishing scheme.

Only the DNC emails could even qualify as a potential "hack", with Assange on the record as it being a leak.

Ray McGovern wins a bagel for this headline:

Gen. Petraeus: Too Big to Jail

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I didn't recognize McGovern by name but, having just read his wikipedia page, I do remember him by some of his appearances and statements. Checking the citations led me to this gem.

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1. Ray McGovern is hardly an idiot.
2. Does standing in silence disrupt her speech?
3. nazi may = fascist, but fascist does not = nazi


>> ^chilaxe:

This just in: Idiot prevented from disrupting the Secretary of State's speech. Shocking proof America is a Nazi state!!!

>> ^Irishman:
The Real News really makes the TV news look like cartoon news for 5 year olds. And Republicans.

True, but I fear for their future. With these recent donations drive additions to their videos I'm thinking they are having a hard time with funding. I'm going to donate again, and hopefully it won't be a futile one.
They have so much insightful information on many US and foreign events, and they are only getting started. Eventually they are going to have a full hour news broadcast and many other programming if they succeed.

>> ^MINK:
qm fires off another distress flare from the deck of the failboat.


LOL hear hear! Awesome comeback. Both peggedbea and MINK.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Why was McGovern allowed to stick around for so long? How do you conduct a war with an anti-war 'activist' on the team?



how do you conduct a war without an argument from the opposition? irresponsibly.

Ex CIA and current dissenter Ray Mcgovern was in the crowd and got kicked out for mentioning that they should swear Petraeus in. This is one of their most important testimonies and the whole thing is a clusterfuck. I love CSPAN, they just let the cameras roll and these jackasses don't realize it.