I'm so sick of hearing 'Bodies' in every MMA video.

But to the topic at hand... It's important to remember this is a 'highlight reel'. You didn't have this kind of brutality from start to finish in a Pride event.

I would like the unified rules to be a little more open just to keep the fighters moving, but not so much that there's a huge risk of serious injury. I like the fighters to keep coming back, not end up in a wheelchair.

The 12-6 elbow is obviously a really stupid rule. Elbows are fine as-is in unified rules aside from that.

Knees to the head of a grounded opponent are fine with me, so long as it's not to the top of the head (compressing the spine), likewise with soccer kicks.

Piledrivers and strikes to the base of the neck should remain illegal.

I'm not sure about headbutting. I don't know of a good reason for it to be illegal off the top of my head.

Whether or not they can grab the cage seems like a wash to me. I both like and dislike things about either approach.

One thing I really can't stand in Pride is the ring/ropes. Every time the fighters get near them a dozen people start grabbing at the fighters and pushing them away from the ropes. To me that's like allowing people on the sidelines of a basketball game to grab the players if they get close enough. Resetting the match in the middle of the ring doesn't make me any happier.

Yes, it's frustrating to see people get trapped against the cage in UFC sometimes, but the octagon is pretty damn big. You probably fucked up pretty badly to get yourself stuck there.

Also, remember that the UFC doesn't make the rules, the SACs do. UFC has been campaigning for rules changes for at least a few years now.

Like watching a stageplay. "Anton Chekhov presents Three Sisters in the Octagon"

>> ^aspartam:
That guy did not look like he was okay.


Not many people do when they're knocked unconscious. =)

At a recent UFC event Chris Leben got choked out, leaving him unconscious and convulsing on the octagon floor. Ninety seconds later he was walking around like normal, though fairly pissed off that he had lost. The knockout here was a little more severe, but it's still safer than boxing.

Bah, these guys need to fight it out for real. In the Octagon. Now that I wouldnt miss.

>> ^blankfist:
I feel compelled to explain that in no way am I trying to convey a message of self-righteous anger to my Sifting buddies. I just thought this vid was funny.


F**k you blankfist, you mother-f...ing, vulva eating, "I'm a cool guy" bein', lame-souled mother of an octagonal ass-orifice.

Rugged like rwanda, don't wind up far or get chopped up
Quick to rush the spot like baby urine get mopped up
Tags that spray your hall with rap aerosol
Organized graffiti lectures in can control
Or level with the devil racing uptown first to fort apache
I'm much too much for any demon style to master me
From the thought's next bridge to the hell's gate, lyrically detonating
Sparking m-80's and bottle rockets it's a nigga chaser
Downtown graffiti deface a heroin debaser
Open up your eyes and clean out your nature
Wide open like the grand canyon
Emcees couldn't hang if they was lynched by the grand dragon
Searching for my style like job-corps
Coming home on work release shoplifting at the rap store
But sabotaging me ain't easy
I'm crooked like nathan wick starring as cochese
With a big baseball bat you get robbed like deniro
A sandwich still ain't nothing but a hero
Just a small sample of the abstract
When the rhyme gets crazy hot and lyrics don't know how to act
Whether shooting joints or wax
I go all out and attack crabs and herbs that's crazy wack
We all can't be pimps, and we all can't rap
You got to get your dollars on cause it's on like that
Here's what I want you to do
Niggas with the green axe and burgundy forerunner, inhuman like blade runner
When I'm rhyming all summer just listen to the drummer
Transistor blister feedback freak the impeders
Funk flow we expose frequencies in sequence
Napalm gets dropped long range like fiber optics
Check the rhyme activity your skills is microscopic
Peace to my crew and my nigga el-p
Who's here to spark it causing all these crabs to flee

Check it and I inflict it quattro nine fifty lungs misty
Color me maxmillian cause I'm that crazy robot
Teetering on the edge of outer space
Spitting buckshots till black holes surround me, you found me
As far as I'm concerned I've got your ashes in an urn
Big up, the temperamental hold none barred kid
What's your confunction? tracks is type dusty
Drinking water out the well of life and i'ma piss it back rusty
Flesh and phonics, you're God damned right
I'm on 'em like aeorta pacemakers hooked up to clappers
Clap off (*clap clap*) welcome to my free-form jubilee, look at me
The witness to the shit you wanna be
Dba lyrical p known as a simp and I'm a sycophant
Feeding on fats passed and dipped
In and out of my invisible state
Forerunner rep tyrannical
Wrecks like tecs bust mechanical
Rusty goner weasel painting beats on an easel
Shoot a head up, what bitch you're boxing shadows
Look out my way you pull your breath out to battle
Breaking your double helix, and now the shit is single
Not mono, I burn the needle out your vinyl
El-p the third gunner on the grassy knoll
Stroll, keep the seventh seal of heaven in my pocket
You're faggot like sprockets, motherfuck the houston rockets
I'm so sick of recycled metaphors
Bet but I'd fuck laura ingalls only when she's done with her chores
Got rappers tip toeing on a highway to heaven
Got manners like bruce banner when he's stressed
I'm sick of your corny beats and your crowd-involved hooks
Cause I'm a thinker
Evil anus letting off stinkers

Bj eight steps to perfection
The sum of each part forms an octagon
Let rhyme styles get sparked

Ep eight stpes to perfection
The sum of each part forms an octagon
Where rhyme styles get sparked

The holy terror, last moves you never won't win
Playing taps on a violin
You can never comprehend the rhyme origin
I rate one like a chinese, jamaicin like a chin
Hot rocking corduroy, ballys that's so fitted
Niggas came and assed out my tracks and left 'em shitted
Fuck the movement, lubricate the smooth shit
Just to letcha know, never do I use it
Strictly the blueprint for the ghetto music in my cipher
Shorty the sniper jeep like cherokee
When I take aim handling wall to wall emcees
Mr. madman attract lyrics like magnets
They fuck up speaking cavernous when I'm stabbing it
Like the juice, then go bronco busting loose
That's my word, you couldn't shoot or try to compute the math
To kick any type sport like the vandal
I manhandle, emcees get murdered like tennessa
Or trapped in the bedroom with the texas chain saw
Massacre one two three you're taking and tell 'em
Eastwick underground new york be the dwelling
I keep telling 'em the state of the mind be the mentals
If you murder up in the ghetto you murder in a temple

I think getting Chuck Norris to explain an octagon on Sesame Street would be more kharmic.

I don't buy that this whole stop sign thing was an accident.
What other octagon was he going to find walking around on the street?

>> ^mentality:
^kagenin:
Its worth noting that in nearly every street fight Mike Tyson has been in, he has broken his hands or wrists.
The bones in your hands are quite small and fragile. That's why hand wrapping is so essential in all combat sports. With amount of force Tyson puts behind his punches, anyone will break their hand.


Oh, on this I do agree, however, most Karate-ka and Kung-fu practitioners are taught ways to throw punches that are both safe (in that they minimize potential damage to those fragile bones), but also deliver a strong amount of force. We've seen Bruce Lee's 1-inch-punch, derived from Wing Chun Kung-fu. We've seen Elvis drop people with Ed Parker's American Kempo Karate. UFC MMA fighters don't usually use as much wrap as boxers (granted, most don't use traditional boxing gloves - most prefer open-fingered Kempo-style gloves).

To me, this speaks to how unrefined Tyson's technique has always been. He may hit like a freight train, but if you can survive one or two hits, or even better, get him to miss and hit a sturdy object instead, like a wall, it wouldn't matter how hard he hits. Outside of the ring is a very different situation than the structured rules of boxing.

I've always wondered how Tyson would hold up in an octagon. I doubt he'd last long against a fighter with a more varied, well-rounded skill set.

Of course, finding someone who fits that description, and yet is still dumb enough to step into the ring with him would probably be impossible

You know, I've never once bought a pay per view TV show, but I think I'd pay to see this guy in the Octagon against Brock Lesnar.

Thank you. Good to know Kool Keith has some friends out there

In reply to this comment by kulpims:
*promote

2008 will be hailed as a great year in western world history; the year nut stank, funk, and dick dough were abolished forever by Alexyss and octagon(?) soap. 2008 indeed. Evocative of glorious years past. Years replete with liberating thought and progress: Luther's Reformation (1517), Hobbes Leviathan (1651), the French Revolution (1789), Darwin's Origin of Species (1859), and the collapse of communism (1989), to name a few.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Dr Octagon, Music video' to 'Dr Octagon, Kool, Keith, Music video' - edited by MrFisk

Tags for this video have been changed from 'napoleon dynamite, octagon, bow to your sensei' to 'napoleon dynamite, octagon, bow to your sensei, Diedrich Bader' - edited by youdiejoe

Hey Andy,

How's it coming? I would love to see your progress if you can send me something.

Thanks for your help!

Nate

In reply to this comment by MrConrads:
Oh no worries! I was planning on making my own in ill. I was just asking if that was the gereral look,layout,color etc that you were looking for. Then adding the red loops. Sorry for the miscommunication.

Andy

In reply to this comment by MycroftHomlz:
Eh. I was sort of hoping you would make you own octagons, cause those are a .gif and are not vectorized graphics so scaling them will not look good.

This might go in a publication by the way.

In reply to this comment by MrConrads:
Hey Nate,
I took a look at the picture you sent me and the others from the corospondence youve had with schmawy. Did you want me to basically start from those octagons? Am I just adding those red lines that are looping around them?

Andy