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Seriously great find! I want MORE!

More here - Bronx

I think the final fight in Young Master (1980) is better (strangely it doesn't fit the broken 1-2 style of the fights earlier in the movie). My favorite from Jackie

"yet name one decent american film he's done..."

Well Rumble in the Bronx was pretty good. People also hate on Rush Hour but it did a very good job with the buddy formula. There's a reason why it was shown on TBS like 50 times along with Shanghai Noon. Anyway, if you watch his "My Stunts" he foreshadows experimenting with CGI and we know how that turned out (Medallion, Tuxedo).

As lucky120 mentioned "New police Story" (2004) is one of his better movies which makes you wonder why his recent American productions are so terrible (too ambitious, experimental maybe, no idea)

The fact that he can be involved in all of these two-bit Hollywood movies and STILL be respected by many (including myself) says a great deal about this legend.

By the way, the shoe one was Rumble in the Bronx. He jumped onto a hovercraft and broke it.

It's missing the stunt (I think from either Rumble in the Bronx or Supercop) where he broke his foot and continued to film with a cast that looked like a shoe.

Ok, where to start..

1) There´s a lot of racism in the german military. Fact.
2) What Spiff says is very true. Maybe hard to imagine for Americans, but there really are very few colored people (hope that doesn´t sound racist, it´s the translation of the polite german expression) in Germany compared to what i believe is the situation in America. At my school back in the days: only whites. I don´t remeber seeing any colored person in my home town (a few thousand inhabitants) ever. The first time i saw some colored persons on a regular basis was at university, of 3,000-3,500 students there were no more than a dozen.

Furthermore what´s a shame to see is the situation in the town where i´m living now (~1mio): If you are of very dark skin you WILL be checked by the police. I´ve seen that so many times. People tend to think that if you came from Africa to Germany you most certainly are a drug dealer. That´s a shame but seems to be quite normal over here. Makes me sick every time i see it.

The other thing Spiff says is also true in my eyes: The first impression youths in Germany get of African-american people does most probably not come from reality but from rap music videos. Gangster rap is VERY popular in Germany.

Which leads me to my next point: As i´ve stated before, it is VERY unlikely that you as a German will EVER encounter a gun in your life execpt of the military. We have very strict laws, prohibiting gun posession for private persons nearly completely. Though there´s a huge movement to copy US gangster rap in Germany, more and more german artists (especially the label "Aggro Berlin") glorify their so-called Ghetto life, where you could be shot every day (which is total BS in Germany), drug dealing etc.. There´s this 'ideal' of Ghetto, Gangster Life etc. They very much glorify that lifestyle and through that there´s a strange picture of colored people established. Some of the German (white!!!) rappers even call each other by the n-word and use that a lot in their lyrics (take artist King Kool Savas for example who is part German part Turkish).

As a part of that the term "Bronx" has become commonly used. I´ve encountered the use of that term in my time in the military, too. In 99% it doesn´t refer to the NY district but to any 'ghettoish' place. Doesn´t make it right, just to explain..

The German ignorance of the topic goes on: It is very common along the younger generation to speak of "Texaner" (german for Inhabitants of the US state Texas) when refering to people of most probable south american / mexican heritage.

I could continue forever.. I don´t want to defend anything here, I just thought you guys might find some of this interesting. As always I´m open for opinions, suggestions, critcs, questions and whatever :-)

3) I don´t know why that´s of relevance but: Krumzy, you´re right. It´s a MG3. That´s not the standard weapon but the "bigger" version of standard G3. The G3 (7,62x51) is more and more replaced by G36 (5,56x45) which hasn´t a bigger brother anymore but comes with a seperate mount for MG-use.

Oh and very important: I don´t think Germans are any more racist than other people, it´s just a little bunch of idiots that make it into the news. Just like the KKK etc. Remember Football World Cup 2006? ;-) [that´s soccer for you American guys...]

Thanks for the above added info, fedquip. It gives the clip more context.

It's a different sort of racism, I think, than the type that exists in the US, a more naive kind. Probably the closest most of these soldiers have been to an African-American resident of the Bronx is their local cinema. Furthermore, the number of black people in Germany is vastly smaller than the U.S., so most Germans probably won't meet one on an average day.

I'm not defending their ignorance, but I think the following is worth considering: if all they know of the aforementioned demographic is how they're portrayed in movies, is it any wonder that their perceptions are a bit skewed? It's all very well for the US to say they know better, but isn't it their responsibility to qualify the popular media they broadcast to different communities with the knowledge of how it should be interpreted? Or rather the people who create it?

Sorry, I left out the Irony. I added a few thoughts about the clip to the original description.

Americans are calling for an apology


"The German government obviously has work to do to correct something that is insidious," he said. ". . . Clearly, these folks don't know anything about African-Americans or The Bronx."

i would like to see them do that with some 'different' sayings and head into the bronx, brooklyn ... heck even trenton or philly now (with all the gang activity) and see what happens. i have a feeling there wouldn't be any stone throwing!

The story goes that Tyson was picked on a lot growing up a short guy with a high voice and a lisp, without a father, in the Bronx, and became a rather vicious person at a very young age. He was expelled from junior high school for fighting.

So the knocks on how he's an idiot and doesn't talk right might not be 100% fair. He had a pretty terrible childhood.

Flash played illegal parties and also worked with rappers such as Kurtis Blow and Lovebug Starski. He formed his own group in the late 1970s, after promptings from Ray Chandler. The initial members were Cowboy (Keith Wiggins), Melle Mel (Melvin Glover) and Kid(d) Creole (Nathaniel Glover) making Grandmaster Flash & the 3 MCs. Two other rappers briefly joined, but they were replaced more permanently by Rahiem (Guy Todd Williams, previously in the Funky Four) and Scorpio (Eddie Morris, also used the name Mr. Ness) to create Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five. Soon gaining recognition for their skillful raps, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five pioneered MCing, freestyle battles, and invented some of the staple phrases in MCing. They performed at Disco Fever in the Bronx beginning in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Message_%28song%29

A fantastic documentary film charting the history of 'Scratching' or Turntablism (the official website and it's IMDB entry)...

"A feature-length documentary film about hip-hop DJing, otherwise known as turntablism. From the South Bronx in the 1970s to San Francisco now, the world's best scratchers, beat-diggers, party-rockers, and producers wax poetic on beats, breaks, battles, and the infinite possibilities of vinyl."

Oh wow! I didn't know he was doing that! Now I'll have to see it.

Oscar worthy? "Rumble in the Bronx? erm.....

You'll love this animated film he is working on called Kung Fu Panda I mean Panda's and Kung Fu!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Panda

You should see New Police Story, it's one of the best recent films he has made and I was totally blown away when I saw it.

And how can you hate Rumble in The Bronx, next to Around the World in 80 Days, The Twins Effect and Shanghai Knights it's bloody Oscar worthy!

Funny thing is Jackie Chan sings as well!