Their argument still stands, the healthy person dropping dead is just one example of a freak occurrence. And it happens: sudden heard attack, hemorrhage in the brain or ruptured arteries etc. one minute you are just fine, the next minute you drop dead.

The problem with this guy's (and possibly your) belief is that if the freak occurrence works his way, he sees it as a "gift from God" but if it affects him negatively or not at all, he'll just think its a freak occurrence. These things happen sometimes with very sick people, but the chances are of course very small, my guess is that doctors see these "miracles" every now and then, but they cant go around assuming things like that will happen, they know that there's a 99,9% chance that the dead person stays dead, so thats what they have to assume.


>> ^White:
well the hosts don't realize the huge hole in their argument:
you can't really compare the two situations. his mother was not "on the brink of death, and then got better." she DIED. they took her off life support and she stopped breathing. then suddenly, BUT NOT IMMEDIATELY, she came back to life and no one knows why. i defy anyone to find a "perfectly healthy person" who dropped dead. people don't just die, they die because something was wrong with them or something happened to them. there is always a reason. the point of this man's story is that there is no medical reason that his mother came back. the doctors said she was going to die, and she did. then, out of the blue, she came back.

>> ^White:
say whatever you want, i'm a perfectly happy and proud catholic.


There are a lot of happy children who believe in Santa Claus, too. Doesn't bother me as long as they don't start teaching it in schools.

>> ^White:
well the hosts don't realize the huge hole in their argument:
you can't really compare the two situations. his mother was not "on the brink of death, and then got better." she DIED. they took her off life support and she stopped breathing. then suddenly, BUT NOT IMMEDIATELY, she came back to life and no one knows why. i defy anyone to find a "perfectly healthy person" who dropped dead. people don't just die, they die because something was wrong with them or something happened to them. there is always a reason. the point of this man's story is that there is no medical reason that his mother came back. the doctors said she was going to die, and she did. then, out of the blue, she came back.


People do occasionally resuscitate on their own, although it is extremely rare. The most recent famous one was the brain dead woman who woke up after being taken off life support: http://www.startribune.com/local/15545747.html?location_refer=Error

There is, currently, no medical explanation for such events. Regardless, it's not a hole in the hosts' argument since not having an explanation for something does not automatically mean God exists. For most of humankind's history, people couldn't explain the apparent motion of the stars in the night sky, so they attributed it to God's work. We all know how that turned out, and I'm sure some day we'll have an explanation for people who self-resuscitate.

>> ^honkeytonk73:
I bet that guy still doesn't get it, even after answering his own questions.


the sign of a true christian...

>> ^millertime1211:
Unicorns exist so God must exist!


Wow -- they named the fuckin' thing "Unicorn". How creative -- not Pegasus or anything cool like that -- Unicorn.

You can actually watch this show online at http://www.atheist-experience.com/