Thanks for the title change @geo321.
Beautiful Women is better than Hot Chicks.

At :36 is the woman from all those commercials.
That looks a lot like Megan Fox at :40, but I can't tell for sure--can't see her thumbs.

@garmachi, the astrology bit is offputting--but completely turned off? Uhmm--No.

*nsfw for some language.

Also, completely turned off by "I'm an astrologer..."

I always go back to evolution.

Humans have, since the beginning, striven to "understand." We evolved over the thousands of years with this "defect."

I think it isn't a defect. I think it gave us an evolutionary advantage somehow. Otherwise, it would have gone the way of the appendix.

Doesn't make me like it, but it also means there is no point in trying to argue someone out of their beliefs. It is a waste of effort. They've got some gene, or brain structure, or something, that makes them susceptible to needing this kind of structure in their lives to make sense of it "all."

I like what the atheists are doing with their billboards and TV appearances -- concentrate on GENERAL education. Get the 'rational' word out there, as a life line to those poor folks born into households of faith and don't know that there is an alternative.

An It Gets Better project for non-believers, if you will.



In reply to this comment by Phreezdryd:
>> ^bareboards2:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Phreezdryd" title="member since October 17th, 2010" class="profilelink">Phreezdryd, I read your comment (and agree wholeheartedly!). You underestimated my ability to skip over certain loooooooooong back and forths.

I tried to read a lot of the above.

Mormonism starts with a known con artist. Scientology starts with an apparently well medicated science fiction author, and possibly on a bet. Christianity didn't exactly begin in the friendliest of climates, and we may never know who actually started it, besides what the text claims. The list goes on of course across the planet.

Not to mention all the "cults" that have ended badly, or still skirt the edges of society today. Even the people who just believe in their personal psychic or tarot cards, astrology, etc.

The mind boggles at this effort throughout history to answer things possibly unknowable. And that's evidence enough for me to think none of them have a clue.

>> ^bareboards2:

@Phreezdryd, I read your comment (and agree wholeheartedly!). You underestimated my ability to skip over certain loooooooooong back and forths.

I tried to read a lot of the above.

Mormonism starts with a known con artist. Scientology starts with an apparently well medicated science fiction author, and possibly on a bet. Christianity didn't exactly begin in the friendliest of climates, and we may never know who actually started it, besides what the text claims. The list goes on of course across the planet.

Not to mention all the "cults" that have ended badly, or still skirt the edges of society today. Even the people who just believe in their personal psychic or tarot cards, astrology, etc.

The mind boggles at this effort throughout history to answer things possibly unknowable. And that's evidence enough for me to think none of them have a clue.

>> ^kymbos:

Those fish forums are pretty intense. I once went there asking for advice, and someone basically told me that any baby fish born into my tank would be retarded. Finding that rather comical, I embarked on a trolling campaign pretending he had basically accused me of intentionally breeding genetic retards, but after a while I realised no matter how wild my comments got, they would always be considered genuine. Those people are out there.


That's just the Internet in general. Any topic you can think of has a dedicated forum packed with the exact same mix of people that had simply picked a different passion.

Politics, economics, books, science, math, xkcd rules, xkcd sucks, (xkcd sucks) sucks, martial arts, dolphin sex, video games, sports, cars, fish, medicine, homeopathy, astrology, UFOs, mole men, moon men, Nazis in Argentina, Nazis on the Moon, flat Earths, hollow Earths, the Electric Universe...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'painted bodies, amazing effects' to 'painted bodies, amazing effects, zodiac, astrological signs' - edited by xxovercastxx

>> ^Gallowflak:

you don't have the right to get offended if something you believe in is demonstrably false and people call you out on it.


Sure you do. It's just inadvisable because it makes you look like a stupid child.

>> ^Gallowflak:

Here's a tip about intellectual honesty: you don't have the right to get offended if something you believe in is demonstrably false and people call you out on it.


But you do have the right to be offended or upset if someone proves you're wrong and then punches you in the face to end the point. I'm saying that this is what I do to end arguments.

By the way, i downvoted this video, because Behe doesnt deserve the platform. He's lying about biology, and he KNOWS he is lying. All his arguments (basically just one) was pulverized by real scientists in the Dover trial RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS EYES, he was shown flagellums with missing parts, people explained how things evolve new functions etc. and he was forced to accept that "intelligent design theory" is no more scientific than astrology.

From Wikipedia:

Professor Behe was questioned concerning his 1996 claim that science would never find an evolutionary explanation for the immune system. He was presented with fiftyeight peer-reviewed publications, nine books, and several immunology textbook chapters about the evolution of the immune system; however, he simply insisted that this was still not sufficient evidence of evolution, and that it was not "good enough"

The guy is a deluded fraud and a liar who is completely unwilling to understand or accept evolution in the face of the overwhelming evidence that has been, on occasion, personally presented to him.

Instead of doing what any scientist and reasonable person would do, and discard his long-since disproven nonsense, he keeps trotting out the same baloney, in an attempt to fool people who know nothing about biology.

He is also, according to his own son, religiously retarded on other levels, when his son became an atheist, he basically forbade him to talk to his younger siblings. (http://breakingspells.net/son-of-michael-behe-discusses-his-atheism/)

Religious, deluded, dishonest nutcase

I was going to post this yesterday but then the sift was down so it's probably too late, but I had it saved so here it goes:

I don't think people should go out of their way to take offence to these kinds of videos. It's propaganda, and it would be interesting to some, but there is nothing new or particularly insightful here. If you don't fit the description of the video, you can probably safely move along. However, it describes many people.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Isn't there something inherently stupid about telling someone they're wrong about their beliefs because "no one knows"? Well then, how would you know dummy?

Some things are unknowable. People claiming the opposite are either liars or simply mistaken. Acknowledging (knowing) that this statement is true does not cause a contradiction.

>> ^shinyblurry:

I am a highly rational and logical person...

I don't mean to pick on this (at least not in a mean way), but if this is true you must have considered the massive amount of psychological delusions that humans make on a regular basis. People believe they have been visited by aliens. Even in the modern age many people in various countries believe they are following Gods on earth and believe they've witnessed miracles conducted by those man-gods. People (even presently) believe in witches, demonic possession, voodoo, astrology, homeopathy, dowsing, bigfoot, ghosts, etc, etc, etc.

Violent crime victims have been utterly surprised and ashamed when DNA evidence proved that their sworn and BELIEVED eyewitness accounts were misremembered and that people they were POSITIVE perpetrated the crimes against them indeed did not. Some people believe God tells them directly to kill others. Or that they themselves are the Messiah.

And generally speaking, the human mind has evolved to find patterns in noise: to interpret coincidence as cause and effect.

Given all of this, what is more likely: that all of these claims and beliefs are true? Or that just the ones we agree with are true? Or that perhaps few or none of these claims are true and they reveal the fragile nature of the human mind.

If we can accept the latter explanation, that we are limited machines with limited resources processing vast information in real time under great stress over decades of experiences... perhaps when we find ourselves seeing, remembering, or believing something unsupported by physical evidence, perhaps we should logically consider that we *should not* believe it.

Back to lurking...

*ban

Self Link...ICA = I Ching Astrology = Jon Sandifer

See YT.

Thanks for that my foolish mistake.

In reply to this comment by Trancecoach:
astronomy ≠ astrology

>> ^jan:

I feel like in watching a Disney version of astrology 101.
I find him entertaining enough, but humans are ingenious in all forms not just the formerly educated state.
There are engineers that can not fix there own house plumbing.
Survival within the technological boom means we may have to resort to a more practical understanding of our needs.
I'm only one hour into it, it may win me over yet.

astronomy ≠ astrology

>> ^jan:

I feel like in watching a Disney version of astrology 101.
I find him entertaining enough, but humans are ingenious in all forms not just the formerly educated state.
There are engineers that can not fix there own house plumbing.
Survival within the technological boom means we may have to resort to a more practical understanding of our needs.
I'm only one hour into it, it may win me over yet.

That is exactly what I said when I posted this to Facebook...that and astrology. But perhaps that was just the churches that I went to when I was deluded...

>> ^ZappaDanMan:

isnt numerology the work of the devil?

He seems to be into numerology. Isn't that supposed to be demonic like Astrology?
I've seen a few of the videos by this guy, he is... unique...