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Similar here, though it hearkens me back to Road Rash on 3DO (yeah, I'm one of the few people who had one of those overpriced systems):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuX6D-gY5VY

That and the 3DO release of Star Control 2 (which the relatively recent remastered version released for free as The Ur-Quan Masters borrowed a lot from) redeemed the system.

I heard they are retro-releasing this all the way back to the GameBoy and the 3DO platform.

Well, off the top of my head, how about Computer City, Packard Bell, Circuit City, SCO, SGI, DIVX (not the codec), Commodore, Amiga, XM Radio (with Sirius XM following closely behind), Atari, 3DO... most of these are companies who were once dominant until their consumers took their dollars to greener fields.

Oh, wait... You didn't want me to answer that, did you? You just wanted me to concede the point? My bad.

As for building schools and bridges; that's a different topic and one which I think is totally suited to government. I'm not anti-government across the board, I just think it ought to be kept in check and that it's not the miracle cure to all problems.

The federal government is too big for my tastes at the moment. I have an infinitesimally small influence on the federal government because my one vote is a molecule in a drop in the bucket. I have no real choice or say in any matter. All I can do is pick the preselected candidate whose lies I find most comforting. They're going to do whatever they want once the election is over.

If the local governments were the focus of power, at least the people would have more influence. There my one vote is a far bigger portion of the pie and it's not even unrealistic for me to run for office myself if I really don't feel represented. If power were more distributed it would be more difficult for lobbyists to buy power.

I like the idea of moving an hour away and having a drastically different government if I'm unhappy with how things are run where I live. Moving from state to state can give you a little bit of that nowadays, but I think it ought to be taken further.

I agree that neither smaller == better and larger == better are universal truths and that there's a happy medium to be found, but it sounds like my happy medium is smaller than yours. I guess that's why you're so popular with the ladies.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Can you give me a meaningful example of consumers bringing down a corporation by "wallet voting"? Of course not, because it is a ridiculous notion. Consumerism doesn't challenge corporate power, it increases it. At best, consumerism has the power to stop Coca-Cola from marketing a new cola that tastes like ass. Consumerism doesn't build schools or bridges. Consumerism is reactive, not proactive.

In a democracy, the power rests in the hands of the people, by way of 1 person: 1 vote. It was a populist response to older forms of government based around wealth, power and nobility. It is a testament to the success of democracy that so many now can take it for granted. Government power is people power (read=your power). Limiting the power of government limits the power of the people, and if you are interested in stopping corrupt corporations, public government is the only thing big enough and powerful enough to get that done.

It is very true that our democracy has been subverted in many ways, but through democracy, we can change this. I agree with you that apathy is one of the big enemies here, but I see much reason for hope. With increased access to information, the public has become much more aware of corporate abuse, and has become much more politically involved. Despite what Obama may or may not do in his 4-8 years in office, I think it is significant that he was able to break through the corporate propaganda and win on a very pro-people platform.

Last point, one of the great red herrings in this debate is that of 'size'. Notions about 'big' or 'small' government are completely arbitrary and meant to distract you from the more important qualities that you wisely mentioned: efficiency and effectiveness.

Government should not be shoehorned into some arbitrary concept of big or small. Government should be just the right size in needs to be, to be both efficient and effective. Getting rid of valuable social services in order to make the government smaller only makes the it less efficient and less effective.

It's cool for certain impacts and such... but they actually used it in a BOOT. Do you realize how STUPID that is? This material (3do) does not protect AT ALL against CRUSHING. If you drop a 50+ pound block on your foot, it's going to get crushed unless two things occur:

1) The block is traveling at a high speed, and
2) IMMEDIATELY after impact, the block is picked up or deflected.

I have steel toe boots, and I actually use the steel toes as a tool. I set heavy objects on them, so they are not flush with the floor. This allows you to get your fingers under the object to lift once you are in position. 3do would squish like jelly in this scenario, and most scenarios I can think of involving foot protection.

I gotta admit...I'm fascinated with this game, and the 3DO. I've been researching both for an hour (since I first watched the video).

The game has me...much like the painting in Rock'N'Rolla.

I gotta admit...I'm fascinated with this game, and the 3DO. I've been researching both for an hour (since I first watched the video).

The game has me...much like the painting in Rock'N'Rolla.

I gotta get a 3DO.

I was that kid who owned a 3DO. Despite the fact that there were a few decent original games/superior ports of other games for it, it simply wasn't worth the price.

As a matter of fact I think I'm going to go apologize to my parents right now, for making them buy that hyped up piece of monkey shit for Christmas. God do I feel dirty.

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Thanks for the pro tip - it makes it much better with the voices.

In reply to this comment by BoneyD:
Such a fantastic game. A short while back, I played the re-release of Star Control 2 since Toys For Bob made it open source.

You can pick and choose which sound/music packs you want to load with it, from either the PC or 3DO versions. I tried to keep it as close to the original PC settings for nostalgic reasons, but I highly enjoyed the 3DO voice acting! If you feel like cranking it up again, I recommend turning that feature on.

>> ^jwray:
I believe this is the work of Kudo Tsunoda, who is also responsible for such utter crap as the defjam series.


I used to work with Kudo back in his days at 3DO (actually work for him would be a more appropriate description). He's actually a great guy in real life and one of the few really good managers I knew in the video game industry. He always tried to protect his team and do what he thought was best for the game. Not that his ideas were always correct or anything. But he was always willing to listen to those who disagreed with him and he seemed to genuinely care about the people who worked under him. For that, he earned the team's loyalty and respect.

I haven't played GoW2, but I suspect that it's unfair to lay the blame on any of the game's deficiencies on a single person. Rarely does any one person have that much control over a game's development. Even CliffyB has a boss to answer to.

>> ^daxgaz:
I had to down-vote this sift. I realize the games are awful and i feel bad for anyone who gets one as a present. however, from their site:
"With a small elite team of 6 people ...
...We boast the shortest time required from development to product release in the industry. Ordinarily the average development period for a game is 18 months, whereas Phoenix need a mere 3-5 months."
I work in the game industry and I can read between the lines and know what this actually means. Those six guys probably sleep at the office more than at home. if they have kids, they might as well be orphans and I would bet they don't get paid overtime. I have been through a situation like this (i started my career at the infamous 3DO) and I know that even good people will make a crap product when put in a situation like this.
So, while I understand why others ridicule them, i can't do it myself. walk a mile in another mans shoes, etc...


Nope, it's no excuse... it's like saying "Look, all these knock off brand sneakers, glasses, bags etc. may be absolute shit, but come on, let's not point out how bad quality they are because people who aren't doing very well make them"

Nope, doesn't cut it. Yeah you can feel bad for people down on their luck, but these are people with at least the education required to be able to code, so they should be doing better than this. And even with a short turn around time they aren't EVEN TRYING. Come on, you get together a bunch of your mates and I GUARANTEE you can get better written and performed voice work than this... it doesn't take more TIME it takes SOME CARE.

So I think downvoting this is the wrong attitude, you don't hide shite quality like this and allow them to keep making it, you call them out on it and make them lift their shitty little game a bit and actually... TRY.

Also, just pumping out copies of other things. BAH, at least try to make something vaguely original.

No sympathy.

>> ^daxgaz:
I had to down-vote this sift. I realize the games are awful and i feel bad for anyone who gets one as a present. however, from their site:
"With a small elite team of 6 people ...
...We boast the shortest time required from development to product release in the industry. Ordinarily the average development period for a game is 18 months, whereas Phoenix need a mere 3-5 months."
I work in the game industry and I can read between the lines and know what this actually means. Those six guys probably sleep at the office more than at home. if they have kids, they might as well be orphans and I would bet they don't get paid overtime. I have been through a situation like this (i started my career at the infamous 3DO) and I know that even good people will make a crap product when put in a situation like this.
So, while I understand why others ridicule them, i can't do it myself. walk a mile in another mans shoes, etc...


yep, I work in the games industry too - but the bottom line is, you can't be proud of a game that is best described as 'avoid'

|These are cheap cheap games, made on the cheap. And yes, even if you are very talented - you will not be able to produce much of quality in such a short time frame. But still....the London driving game, I mean...come on!!

>> ^daxgaz:
I have been through a situation like this (i started my career at the infamous 3DO) and I know that even good people will make a crap product when put in a situation like this.
So, while I understand why others ridicule them, i can't do it myself. walk a mile in another mans shoes, etc...


I'm going to have to disagree. If a chef makes a dish that he can't stand behind, he shouldn't serve it. To create and sell shit like this is disgraceful.

I had to down-vote this sift. I realize the games are awful and i feel bad for anyone who gets one as a present. however, from their site:

"With a small elite team of 6 people ...
...We boast the shortest time required from development to product release in the industry. Ordinarily the average development period for a game is 18 months, whereas Phoenix need a mere 3-5 months."

I work in the game industry and I can read between the lines and know what this actually means. Those six guys probably sleep at the office more than at home. if they have kids, they might as well be orphans and I would bet they don't get paid overtime. I have been through a situation like this (i started my career at the infamous 3DO) and I know that even good people will make a crap product when put in a situation like this.

So, while I understand why others ridicule them, i can't do it myself. walk a mile in another mans shoes, etc...