MMA Fighter shows exactly what happened to George Floyd

newtboysays...

Kinda verifies what I've said all along, it was most likely the cop in the middle, knee to his back, that directly caused his death, but they ALL helped murder him so should ALL be charged together like they would charge a dope dealer's lookout with selling drugs, and since they're cops, they should at least be sentenced to the maximum as an example since they won't add special circumstances and request the death penalty.

greatgooglymooglysays...

Kueng hadn't yet completed his third full shift as a police officer on the day of the incident.

Thomas Lane was on his fourth day on patrol.

In the video, Lane can be heard asking several times about rolling Floyd over and Chauvin says no.

I think it will be hard to get a murder conviction against these two.

There certainly is distinction between the actions of all 4 officers.

newtboysays...

I hope not.
If 4 men grabbed a woman and held her tightly, then one started raping her against the other's verbal protests, but they keep holding her, they're all guilty of rape.

Saying in essence 'don't you think we shouldn't murder him in front of cameras' but not rolling him over or getting off his back, ensuring his death, is murder. It only makes a difference if they stop, and try to stop their cohorts PHYSICALLY.
Also, the one on his back, I think the one asking about rolling him over, is the actual murderer according to the autopsy...but it's a distinction without a difference. They all, as a group, murdered him. Even the one acting as a guard who didn't touch him....murderer. I, and most Americans, are unwilling to give police special treatment because they're cops unless it means extra charges because they abused authority to commit violence.

There is no distinction, just like there's no distinction offered for the lookout at a robbery, they helped murder him as a group.

greatgooglymooglysaid:

Kueng hadn't yet completed his third full shift as a police officer on the day of the incident.

Thomas Lane was on his fourth day on patrol.

In the video, Lane can be heard asking several times about rolling Floyd over and Chauvin says no.

I think it will be hard to get a murder conviction against these two.

There certainly is distinction between the actions of all 4 officers.

greatgooglymooglysays...

The lookout in your example would have a felony murder charge, which is distinctly different from murder. If prosecutors overcharge and one juror doesn't agree, then they get off. I don't think the DA will risk that. I wonder how they are going to find an impartial jury though.

newtboysays...

I disagree, under the law there's no difference, maybe a meaningless distinction. The getaway driver from a drive by is just as guilty of murder. Nowhere does the law say only the single person who was the final piece of a murder puzzle, last car of the murder train, guilty of the crime. In the public eye, same thing, at least among those I know.

Funny, I don't think police would consider going for a jury trial today, and a judge knows there's no difference.

greatgooglymooglysaid:

The lookout in your example would have a felony murder charge, which is distinctly different from murder. If prosecutors overcharge and one juror doesn't agree, then they get off. I don't think the DA will risk that. I wonder how they are going to find an impartial jury though.

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