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messenger says...

I'm still not seeing the difference. Everything you said about SB equally applies to Lantern except for the details of the problem (like it being non-scientific, and so forth).

"Allowing" opinions like SBs also makes it possible to begin to understand the "wrong" side of the argument. I've sharpened these atheist claws considerably speaking with SB.

I don't remember SB attacking anyone. Can you link to an example?

Payback said:

"Allowing" opinions like Lantern's makes it possible to begin to understand the "wrong" side of the argument.

SB is just a deluded, self-aggrandizing zealot. He has no qualms attacking sifters without provocation, based only on his microscopically narrow, scientifically impossible world view.

...but, I haven't seen evidence of him in months, so I'm hoping the question is moot anyway.

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messenger says...

Nope. Math certainly allows you to "shift stuff all over the place". It's the commutative property that you might have learned formally in grade 7 or so, which in terms of addition can be described as "You can add numbers together in any order you like, and the solution will be the same".

If you want to add

(1 + 2 + 3)
+(7 + 8 + 9)
---------------
30
you can rearrange them any way you like and it's the same sum:

(1 + 2 + 3)
+(9 + 8 + 7)
---------------
30

So long as all the numbers in both series get added into the pool at some point, it's good math. So shift away.

Payback said:

My first notion of it's bullshittedness is the second part, where S2 gets S added to itself, but shifted over. That's stupid. Math doesn't just allow you to shift stuff all over the place to help you prove an unprovable equation.

It's like asking a computer for the reason behind life, the universe, and everything, and getting the answer 21.

Cuz. Everyone knows it's 42.

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