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jwray says...

Not every organism in a community of organisms is meant to procreate. Look at bees, for example. The fact that a homosexual couple can't procreate is irrelevant. For the same reason we don't force singles to get married and procreate, we shouldn't prevent homosexuals from getting married.

Also, polyester and computers are not natural. Are you prepared to renounce polyester and computers?


In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
@ skforty -

Homosexuality is simply not natural. Just look at it like this:
Regardless of creation or evolution, humans are made to procreate as a couple. A male/male or female/female couple can not procreate naturally. If you could call it natural, then surely the human form would have been created/evolved to be able to produce children from same sex couples.

Can you look at that and say "Oh okay, well, yeah thats a concern" ?

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jwray says...

The paper is the first result in the google scholar link that I posted. It tested rats with double distilled deionized water (DDW) in the control group and DDW + 2.1 ppm NaF in the test group. 2.1ppm NaF is equal to 1ppm fluoride ion. The rats were not force-fed; the difference was just the type of water in their water bottles. It used a computer program to evaluate rat behavior. It's cited by 60 other papers. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=fluoride+varner

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Could you link me or direct me to the paper in which the clinical trial demonstrating the 1 ppm effect on rats is detailed? The video you commented on is teetering towards the edge of getting the boot from the Science channel, and I thought it might be fun to see if it could be rescued before it flails its way into the abyss.

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TV news is so reminiscent of http://www.videosift.com/video/Monty-Python-The-Argument-Clinic-Full-Version

They don't actually go into the details of the placebo-controlled clinical trial that shows 1ppm of fluoride ion in drinking water causes a pattern of behavioral deficits in rats, or the studies of the biochemical mechanisms of its neurotoxicity. Dental Fluorosis is the most benign of the problems excess fluoride can cause. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=fluoride+varner

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jwray says...

No, I mean we're not being taxed enough for using fossil fuels. And at the same time, the USA is subsidizing energy industry directly, and giving them tax breaks, and spending billions on a defense budget that involves protecting strategically crucial oil reserves far from the USA. These subsidies probably outweigh the oil taxes.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
>> ^jwray:
The U.S. should just place a large tax on all fossil fuel consumption, effectively forcing the industry to switch to nuclear/wind/solar/hydro/tidal. A hydro plant with a large reservoir that can regulate its rate of water passage could load-balance with a solar/wind plant.
It makes perfect sense to tax all consumption of fossil fuels, to internalize the negative externalities of fossil fuel use. The regressivity of this tax could be nullified by a flat refund similar to this year's economic stimulus package.


You mean you don't think that we are already being taxed on it?

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