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Farhad2000 (Member Profile)

deedub81 says...

So, you agree with me that the only similarities have to do with flak from others.

Is that so much more different than the accounts of Moses claiming to part the Red Sea, or Noah building an arc? Why is it okay for some to claim to have received the word of God 2000 years ago, and not okay for them to say they received the word of God yesterday?

I'm being 100% serious.

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
L. Ron Hubbard makes shit up about Xenu, DC-10s, thetans and all that good stuff.

Joseph Smith makes shit up about getting golden plates from an Angel. Oh and Jesus visited America, multiple gods and worlds. Oh by the way they also have modern prophets whose official statements become official canon.

I was relating them as two relatively modern belief systems with questionable origins. Not directly.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
What's questionable about Mormonism as it relates to Scientology? I fail to see any similarities, other than the amount of scrutiny the two receive.

Scientology has a known history of abuse, illegal activity, and motives for world domination, for lack of a better term.

Where are the parallels?

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
You sound like a nice person whose trying to defend a religion that has questionable origins and backgrounds.

It's like Scientology. Also based on questionable facts, but am sure there are some nice folks who practice it.

I don't really understand what you mean by anti-Mormon propaganda, I would love if you could show me some sources.

Farhad2000 (Member Profile)

deedub81 says...

What's questionable about Mormonism as it relates to Scientology? I fail to see any similarities, other than the amount of scrutiny the two receive.

Scientology has a known history of abuse, illegal activity, and motives for world domination, for lack of a better term.

Where are the parallels?

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
You sound like a nice person whose trying to defend a religion that has questionable origins and backgrounds.

It's like Scientology. Also based on questionable facts, but am sure there are some nice folks who practice it.

I don't really understand what you mean by anti-Mormon propaganda, I would love if you could show me some sources.

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deedub81 says...

You won't find what I wrote on google because *gasp* I made it all up.

In reply to this comment by MightyZep:
I seem to remember it being the centrifugal force of the wheels giving my bike the gyroscopic effect, but that was many, many years ago and that sounds pretty damn good, and I have yet to master the google magic, so thank you.


Dang, that google business isn't overrated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics

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deedub81 says...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4282823&page=1

In reply to this comment by HistNerd:
First off, sweet name Enzoblue. Second, I don't think most police officers are like this. I am a Deputy Juvenile Officer, so I work with a lot of kids, and I find that if you respect them, they'll respect you. If I were that kid I would have turned the video into the department. If there is a followup to the story I would like to know. Thanks!

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schmawy (Member Profile)

deedub81 says...

It sounded like you were saying that you couldn't have the fourth amendment and the second amendment existing in harmony at the same time. That's what I don't get.

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
The video was about Wiretapping, which is a fourth ammendment issue. Redsky brought up guns, which is a second amendment issue. If he wished discuss the two together then you have to combine the right to own weapons and the right to privacy, that's why I came up with the government making warantless searches your home for guns. Admittedly, a flimsy reach, but most of my thinking is like that

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
I don't get it. Why would the government search everyone's homes?

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
Redsky-

I think there are other threads that cover the second amendment issue of the right to keep and bear arms, and I'll keep out of those because a friend of mine labeled me a "black powder liberal" on that issue.

This is a fourth amendment issue which of course states "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures..."

If you'd wish to mix the two, applying FISA and Wiretapping to gun control, you'd get something like the following scenario: The government having the right to enter EVERYONES home, without your knowledge and without court permission, to search for firearms. Would this be acceptable to you?

schmawy (Member Profile)

deedub81 says...

I don't get it. Why would the government search everyone's homes?

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
Redsky-

I think there are other threads that cover the second amendment issue of the right to keep and bear arms, and I'll keep out of those because a friend of mine labeled me a "black powder liberal" on that issue.

This is a fourth amendment issue which of course states "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures..."

If you'd wish to mix the two, applying FISA and Wiretapping to gun control, you'd get something like the following scenario: The government having the right to enter EVERYONES home, without your knowledge and without court permission, to search for firearms. Would this be acceptable to you?

maximillian (Member Profile)

deedub81 says...

Charisma is a very important characteristic to have when you're attempting to be elected the most powerful man in the world.

In reply to this comment by maximillian:
Poor Ron Paul. You make such great points, but your competition has better charisma. That's all that America seems to care about. Guess we'll have sh%t on the right or sh%t on the left to choose from again.

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