>> ^gtjwkq:
>> ^enoch
how is reducing government size going to affect the "culprit" of america's current financial crisis?since when did goldman-sachs and the federal reserve become government agencies?

You're kidding, right?


um...no.
it is a private institution, while the federal reserve act of 1913 may have given the fed it's birth and a charter,it is a still private.a charter is how every bank in the country need to operate,does that mean that every bank is government owned?they were basically hired to do a job,and the abuse has been going on for almost a century.
http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve.shtml
"Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws. — Mayer Amsched Rothchild, a prominent European banker in the eighteenth century"
whose family coincidently is part owner of the federal reserve.
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. — Thomas Jefferson

through the past century,every recession,inflated bubble and depression there has been ONE financial institution GOLDMAN SACHS.with incredibly strong ties to the federal reserve and the world bank and the cute and cuddly international monetary fund.i am not going to write a report just to make a point.
you think its fannie and freddie?
ok..i say fannie and freddie were planned....by?
well...i already stated as such who i think holds the blame for that.
great article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine#
and i would recommend one book that is vital,especially now.the man has called it since 2004 while everybody treated him as a pariah.interesting how this man is now thinking of running for senator.see what happens when you call it right?
peter schiff and his amazing book "crash proof"
great short vid here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NvjrfC6i0I

but hey,you go ahead and keep thinking it was the government and freddie and fannie.
but i was not kidding.

well I have a childhood fear of black trash bags, I suppose this my have something to do with my prejudice.

2. do i have links to back up what they are claiminga bout the fed's actions?

so you can downvote it?

Ok... will do but I wanna explain my worldview.

In my world, banks have soft control and set the quality and presentation of all kinds of credit and assets. Not direct power, but they have TONS of influence.

The Federal Reserve is pretty much a bank of a bank. They lend to banks and double or triple or quadruple the lending power of the other big banks.

Banks aren't really good or bad, they are just really financial entities.

>> ^bcglorf:
Finally, I must insist that Israeli aid to the region must not be ignored either. If Israel really wants the region cleansed, why are they still the largest individual provider of humanitarian aid to the region? You know what the biggest complaints where when the borders where closed? Access to Israeli hospitals that where previously available to Palestinians living on the border. And for unemployment caused by closing the border, it was because a great many living in Gaza were working in Israel.


Err? Israel imposed a blockade on Gaza since 2007.

U.N. humanitarian chief John Holmes said that while Israel had been letting some relief supplies into Gaza, with 60 truckloads entering on Monday, that was "wholly inadequate", as about 100 truckloads a day of flour or grain alone were needed. Stocks of fuel were "more or less zero", meaning Gaza's power plant might have to shut down at any time, while medical supplies were "just about enough to cope", Holmes said.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LV538165.htm

A boat delivering 3.5 tonnes of Cypriot medical aid to the Gaza Strip has been rammed by Israeli naval vessels in international waters, activists say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7805075.stm

"The Commissioner-General of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), Karen AbuZayd, on Monday warned that new restrictions Israel planned to impose on the West Bank could force the agency to curtail its humanitarian aid to the Palestinian territory."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/925748.html

Billions of aid dollars pledged to the Palestinians to bolster peace talks with Israel are having a muted economic impact because of Israeli restrictions on travel and trade, the World Bank said on Sunday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2616242520080427

The United Nations is accusing Israel of imposing arbitrary taxes on humanitarian relief supplies - including food and medicine - being ferried to Palestinians in occupied territories. The levies charged by Israel were "unreasonable and unique", Peter Hansen, commissioner-general of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) for Palestine Refugees, told a meeting of donors Wednesday.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/aid/2002/0925israel.htm

On average, the U.S gave more than $6.8 million* to Israel each day and
gave $0.3 million** to the Palestinians each day during Fiscal Year 2007.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

Well, this sounds a lot like the dependence theory, at least in part.

To my understanding, Dependence theory maintains that rich industrialized nations keep poor nations from advancing through various dependency relationships:

*Trade dependency:
Industrial nations perpetuate formal colonial patterns by purchasing raw materials at the lowest price possible, process them at home, and selling the finished products back to developing nations at many times the cost of the agricultural produce or raw materials.

*industrial dependency:
Corporations establish factories in the southern hemisphere and other places to take advantage of the cheap labor, gain access to local markets, gain tax advantages, and circumvent environmental and other goverment regulations in their home countries. This creates greater income inequality for middle and developing nations.

*Investment dependency:
International institutions (such as the World bank) also contribute to dependency relations. Foreign investors become the only "game in town", developing nations have to use most of their importing earnings to pay debts rather than attend the citizen's needs.

This theory "challenges" the Modernization theory which recognizes global development as a process in which advanced nations and technology help poor nations advance.

Yall are thinking small time here. We are talking about the potential collapse of the dollar in general...very much akin to the fall of the soviet union. It isn't quite the same as no one in the world wants to see the dollar collapse, so others are helping with the cover up (short term bail outs and debt lending). At the very least, we are looking at a 20% devaluation of the entire us market. That means everything you own is now 20% less valuable than it was before, you make 20% less, the works

Being the dollar is the world currency, this will be a world wide problem...investing in euros and yen at this point won't help you as most of the world banks are going to have the same problem if the dollar busts. Sad times ahead. Now is the time to adjust your living patterns.

As for Netrunner, I don't think there is any long slow way out of it. The only real solution is liquidation. You have to let the market fall on the debt to give value back to the currency. There is no amount of stimulus or governement bail outs that will do this, this will just put less trust in the markets where the money is being played with by powers other than the market

It is really bad yall. The more and more data I review , the worse the outcome looks. The best bet for those sifters that are interested is to get all of your stocks and investments out of the financial sector. At this point, things that are hard money based, like gold and precious metals are your most realiable bet.

>> ^volumptuous:
CFR is nonsense.
People thinking the CFR is going to control the world, are up there with WTC7/Truth Movement-ers, and bigfoot aficionados.
uggh, I wish I could downvote.


Ahem.....

Today in the Bush administration, every single appointee is a CFR member. The CFR prohibits its members from disclosing anything that has been said within it's closed meetings to outsiders. A recent breakdown of the 4200+ members today reveals that 31% come from the corporate sector, 25% come from academia, 15% from charities, 13% from government, 8% from law, 6% from the media and 2% from other professions. CFR members are on the boards of the following sample of corporations: Citicorp, J.P.Morgan Chase, Boeing, Conoco, Disney, IBM, Exxon Mobil, Dow Jones, Viacom/CBS, Time Warner, Carlyle Group, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Credit Suisse First Boston, Chevron Texaco, Lockheed Martin, Hailliburton, Washington Post/Newsweek.

A former member of the CFR: Rear-Admiral Chester Ward USN JAG (Ret) exposed the sinister intentions of the council in the Review of the News:
"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common - they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR...comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of global government. They would probably prefer that this be an all-powerful United Nations organization; but they are also prepared to deal with and for a one-world government controlled by the Soviet communists if US sovereignty is ever surrendered to them."
Admiral Ward's book: "The Betrayers".

"THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (C.F.R.) IS THE AMERICAN BRANCH OF A SOCIETY WHICH ORIGINATED IN ENGLAND AND BELIEVES NATIONAL BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE OBLITERATED AND ONE-WORLD RULE ESTABLISHED." The Organization's aim is "NOTHING LESS THAN TO CREATE A WORLD SYSTEM OF FINANCIAL CONTROL IN PRIVATE HANDS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF EACH COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE.....I KNOW OF THE OPERATIONS OF THIS NETWORK BECAUSE I HAVE STUDIED IT FOR TWENTY YEARS AND WAS PERMITTED FOR TWO YEARS, IN THE EARLY 1960s, TO EXAMINE ITS PAPERS AND SECRET RECORDS."
--- Col. Carroll Quigley (Ret)

"I think there is an elite in this country and they are the ones who run an elitist government (shadow government). They want a government by a handful of people because they don't believe the people themselves can run their lives... Are we going to have an elitist government that makes decisions for people's lives or are we going to believe as we have for so many decades, that the people can make these decisions for themselves?".
--- Ronald Reagan

"We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence; on
infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation
instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which as conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
- John F. Kennedy



And some infamous quotes from when it all began in this era.....

1920-1931 – Louis T. McFadden was Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Curency. Concerning the Federal Reserve, Congressman McFadden notes:
"When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by International Bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is – the Fed has usurped the Government. It controls everything here, and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will."
Concerning the Great Depression and the country's acceptance of FDR's New Deal, he asserts: "It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. The International Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as the rulers of us all."


And of course we can't forget:
-- Woodrow Wilson (28th President of the United States) stated:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

statistics defined by the world bank, you should have put world bank in the description so people could downvote without watching this crap

Today in the Bush administration, every single appointee is a CFR member. The CFR prohibits its members from disclosing anything that has been said within it's closed meetings to outsiders. A recent breakdown of the 4200+ members today reveals that 31% come from the corporate sector, 25% come from academia, 15% from charities, 13% from government, 8% from law, 6% from the media and 2% from other professions. CFR members are on the boards of the following sample of corporations: Citicorp, J.P.Morgan Chase, Boeing, Conoco, Disney, IBM, Exxon Mobil, Dow Jones, Viacom/CBS, Time Warner, Carlyle Group, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Credit Suisse First Boston, Chevron Texaco, Lockheed Martin, Hailliburton, Washington Post/Newsweek.

A former member of the CFR: Rear-Admiral Chester Ward USN JAG (Ret) exposed the sinister intentions of the council in the Review of the News:
"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common - they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR...comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of global government. They would probably prefer that this be an all-powerful United Nations organization; but they are also prepared to deal with and for a one-world government controlled by the Soviet communists if US sovereignty is ever surrendered to them."
Admiral Ward's book: "The Betrayers".

"THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (C.F.R.) IS THE AMERICAN BRANCH OF A SOCIETY WHICH ORIGINATED IN ENGLAND AND BELIEVES NATIONAL BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE OBLITERATED AND ONE-WORLD RULE ESTABLISHED." The Organization's aim is "NOTHING LESS THAN TO CREATE A WORLD SYSTEM OF FINANCIAL CONTROL IN PRIVATE HANDS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF EACH COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE.....I KNOW OF THE OPERATIONS OF THIS NETWORK BECAUSE I HAVE STUDIED IT FOR TWENTY YEARS AND WAS PERMITTED FOR TWO YEARS, IN THE EARLY 1960s, TO EXAMINE ITS PAPERS AND SECRET RECORDS."
--- Col. Carroll Quigley (Ret)

"I think there is an elite in this country and they are the ones who run an elitist government (shadow government). They want a government by a handful of people because they don't believe the people themselves can run their lives... Are we going to have an elitist government that makes decisions for people's lives or are we going to believe as we have for so many decades, that the people can make these decisions for themselves?".
--- Ronald Reagan

"We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence; on
infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation
instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which as conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
- John F. Kennedy



And some infamous quotes from when it all began in this era.....

1920-1931 – Louis T. McFadden was Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Curency. Concerning the Federal Reserve, Congressman McFadden notes:
"When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by International Bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is – the Fed has usurped the Government. It controls everything here, and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will."
Concerning the Great Depression and the country's acceptance of FDR's New Deal, he asserts: "It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. The International Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as the rulers of us all."


And of course we can't forget:
-- Woodrow Wilson (28th President of the United States) stated:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Working with non-EU countries to confront global issues = World Government!

Everybody be scared! Everybody vote libertarian!


... honestly I thought maybe you were mocking the often hilarious posts people try to drive through where they see a 'new world order' in every politicians speech that mentions working with other countries.

(p.s. there already is a World Bank (worldbank.org), which interestingly has only had a string of American leaders, for no reason beyond tradition.)

(p.p.s. Iran has enriched uranium, they say only for nuclear energy, but if a bunch of different countries are worried I think its probably something to be worried about; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25809160/)

The description to this video is just FUD. He has never supported preemptive wars. He voted against the Iraq war and said the troops should have stayed in Afghanistan to finish off Bin Laden and the Taliban. Unlike Iraq, Most of Afghanistan WANTS more troops to help fight a resurgent Taliban (and thereby defend their basic freedoms from those fundamentalist nutjobs who would have women accused of adultery beheaded) Once we've fucked up a country with war we have an obligation to help rebuild it, if that's what you mean by "nation building".

"United Nations, NATO, and the World Bank"
Aside from the World Bank's usury, why show such contempt for international cooperation? One world government is not necessarily a bad thing.

"From the cave-spotted mountains of northwest Pakistan, to the centrifuges spinning beneath Iranian soil, we know that the American people cannot be protected by oceans or the sheer might of our military alone."
Iran actually DOES have centrifuges for enriching fuel for power plants, and such equipment could easily be reallocated to weapons production if Iran wanted to do so. Nothing about that statement is inaccurate, only your FUD interpretation of it is inaccurate. Obama has never supported attacking Iran. Apparently you think acknowledging the existence of a threat we might face is equivalent to advocating war. Irishman makes the same mistake. Obama is not warmongering, he is trying to build international cooperation. Counterterrorism does not require starting any new wars. He has said we will GTFO of Iraq by 2010 and just finish the job in Afghanistan.

"join overwhelming military force with sound judgment"
That's not saying we should start any new wars. The only war he's advocating is finishing the job in Afghanistan.

We should send them all to the world bank for a refund. Let Belgium smell like Dodge City for a change. God knows they can't stand the smell of their own shit.... let's give em Bossy's stink to deal with.

I need a carrot.

Yes but am talking out of experience, the problem is that there is no unified approach towards tackling the problems, so what you have is a thousand different projects doing a thousand different things that don't really improve anything.

When it comes to economics and business we have institutions like the IMF and World Bank that provide advisory roles on how to open nations to corporate capitalism there is no such unified approach when it comes to aid. Because in the aid business and it is a business, every one hates each other.

Rather send a letter to the World Bank, Queen Beatrix, and the Annunaki fucks that disguise themselves as the Booosh family, and let them know their children's children', not yet born, are low-life scum-....

This is a great advert but it's a gross over simplfication of the South African 'problem'. It pushes the black/white dichotomy that has very quickly become irrelevant in the current socio-economic climate and does nothing to advance any meaningfull discourse.

It feels to me like it's promoting the idea that subversive racism is still the large cause of the many problems in South Africa, which is clearly not the case. The imagery is effective in communicating the largely unchanged landscape of the 'new' South Africa, but I never get the impression that it's trying to get its audience to question why the structures haven't changed. This kind of imagery is only going to further aggravate the prejudice that is alive and well in S.A. You have to be practical about Sabc 1's target audience as well. It's very much youth oriented, and imagery like this is not going to be put into the broader context that it deserves.

It's this kind of systemic oversimplification that has lead to issues like the current xenophobic violence and it's a scary indicator of things to come.

How about questioning the GEAR (Growth, Employment and Redistribution) strategy that the government has employed since 1996 (Privatisation, Open markets, etc etc. Sound familiar?), or the negative influence the WTO and World Bank have had on South Africa's economic environment. How about discussing the fact that the new government has had to deal with around 343 billion rands worth of debt incurred by the previous apartheid government, and how this has effectively crippled their ability to implement substantial change, forcing the government to sell off many nationalised assets at one point to cover the payments. Add on top of that the loss of control of the South African reserve bank, corrupt and inept politicans, badly thought out black economic empowerment programs, rising unemployment, etc etc etc and it gets pretty complex and messy very quickly, and that's why simplifying it down to race is disengenuous and incredibly damaging.

My fear is that this xenophobic violence weve started seeing is the first expression of the economic climate that is developing in South Africa due to a cocktail of the broader worldwide economic crisis and the lackadaisical economic programs employed by the current goverment. And with imagery like this being promoted, I wouldn't be suprised if it spills into overt racial violence at some point.

I Just Fixed these, you can release them from your dead playlist Thanks for the heads up
http://www.videosift.com/video/Hodgman-explains-the-World-Bank
http://www.videosift.com/video/Hillary-on-the-Insider
http://www.videosift.com/video/Countdown-Special-Comment-Bush-Cheney-Should-Resign
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Simpsons-India-Outsourcing
http://www.videosift.com/video/Iraq-War-Teens-Voicing-their-concerns
http://www.videosift.com/video/Great-Candidate-in-the-2000-Election
http://www.videosift.com/video/ATTNSA-Spying-Whistleblower
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dennis-Kucinichs-Opening-During-Global-Warming-Debate
http://www.videosift.com/video/Wrestling-With-Manhood-Homophobia