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lucky760's reasoning is sound.

Anyone that has researched and/or trained on weapon on weapon defense, in this case knife vs. firearm knows the Tueller's Drill. It has been a standard for over thirty years. Basically,

The Tueller Drill is a self-defense training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife attack when armed only with a holstered handgun.
Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, "How Close is Too Close?"[1]
A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder. If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a "danger zone" where an attacker presented a clear threat.[2]
The Tueller Drill combines both parts of the original time trials by Tueller. There are several ways it can be conducted:[3]
The "attacker and shooter are positioned back-to-back. At the signal, the attacker sprints away from the shooter, and the shooter unholsters his gun and shoots at the target 21 feet (6.4 m) in front of him. The attacker stops as soon as the shot is fired. The shooter is successful only if his shot is good and if the runner did not cover 21 feet (6.4 m).
A more stressful arrangement is to have the attacker begin 21 feet (6.4 m) behind the shooter and run towards the shooter. The shooter is successful only if he was able take a good shot before he is tapped on the back by the attacker.
If the shooter is armed with only a training replica gun, a full-contact drill may be done with the attacker running towards the shooter. In this variation, the shooter should practice side-stepping the attacker while he is drawing the gun.
Mythbusters covered the drill in the 2012 episode "Duel Dilemmas". At 20 feet the gun wielder was able to shoot the charging knife attacker just as he reached the shooter. At shorter distances the knife wielder was always able to stab prior to being shot. (Wikipedia)

That a firearm, particularly a handgun, will instantly incapacitate an individual is not a working concept and is fallacious. Variables such as adrenaline and drugs are attributable. Shot placement is trumps. Anything but a CNS. central nervous system, shot is not efficacious in safely stopping the threat. Not an easy or sure target sans movement, stress, etc.

Law enforcement put their lives and safety in harm's way every day. They are not there to die needlessly. An individual with suicide by cop or a LEO's death in mind is a serious threat to be dealt with with prejudice.

By the way, research knife wounds vs. handgun wounds. There is much data, ER, medical examiner, law enforcement. The deadly seriousness of knife wounds are well documented.

Tasers...I would not want to risk my life behind one or anyone about whom I care.

Amazing Flash Flood / Debris Flow Southern Utah has been added as a related post - related requested by kulpims on that post.

The "it" that's about JS are fucking insane law-masturbation in Idaho and the inane in both camps duking it out to get their way. Like I said, 14-year-old girls kicking and screaming to have it the way they want it. Dude, it's fucking Idaho-Some of the most back-assward fucks from all over the country have relocated there to get the fuck away from everyone else and their bullshit, as they see it.

Think Utah when Joe Smith skipped the Northeast except with redder necks than clansmen with a history of blunt-force trauma to the head.

Prickville, USA
LGBT's have quite the battle ahead of them there-

Salt Lake City has an odd dichotomy. On the one hand it's the heart of the Mormon church. And if you do go to the temple and meet one of their leaders, he will be an old white man who takes himself way too seriously.

But on the other hand it's also the most liberal and democratic leaning part of Utah. One recent example. Last Friday when the federal court judgement came which struck down Utah's same-sex marriage ban. Clerks stayed late at the County Clerk's office and ministers flocked to volunteer to marry the hundreds of gay couples who showed up immediately after the news. I know a very devoted lesbian couple who were married by the mayor of Salt Lake City that night.

The plot thickens:

"A Boy Scout leader who came under fire for pushing over an ancient boulder in a national park filed a suit last month claiming he was suffering permanent "disability" and "impairment" from an auto accident four years ago.

Taylor initially faced scrutiny after a video of him pushing over a Jurassic era rock formation in the Goblin Valley State Park in Utah went viral.

Taylor, a Boy Scout leader, told ABC News that he should have handled the incident differently but thought the boulder was dangerous and thought it would be safer to push it over.

"The Boy Scouts didn't teach me to do this," Taylor told ABC News. "Would I do it again? Yes, with a ranger standing there. That's what we should have done.""

Right? Fine, banned from National parks for life, and their public self-immolation seems a harsh enough mistress? ...I'd add a judgement of a mandatory probation of five years wearing a shirt in public as community service which reads, "Utah Rock-Tipper Guy."

The same people who would sit at their computers and pontificate after working the system's chores at the system's game....and who are about as involved with real-time politics as it takes to cast a vote after reading blogs and bitching...the same recycle dutifully and with much sniffing of their own fart-gas with windows sealed tightly in their Prius'.....Would place public lands chicaneries right up there with serial killing.

It's getting very close to critical mass ignoramus-ism, idiocratic hell.

That new "like such as the Iraq" girl (Miss Utah?) should have quoted Reg's last sentence here for her answer...

Your jaded perspective makes me feel bummed out for you. Don't read so much into this encounter. You can view it as a nature program or something.

Tonight on Nova.... The mating ritual of the Utah human.

Now... smile!

>> ^vaire2ube:

what part of what i said isnt true... idaho has skinheads, mormons are racist according to their scripture, and wyoming must be, what? educated people all over? heh heh who is ignorant ..
if you voted for Romney, you are Ignorant/Racist/Uneducated/Rich, not Informed/Tolerant/Intellectually Curious/Oppressed by Rich Lobbies/HONEST
Look at WA state and the diversity that brought about Gay Marriage, Legal Weed, and Obama Votes ... if you hate these things, you dont like freedom... you like a KIND of freedom, where one group gets the freedom to oppress others.


I know for sure that there is a giant Mormon population in southern Idaho. Remember, these states border Utah, which means that much of their "demographic" overflows in to those states as well.

>> ^vaire2ube:

i love how Idaho and Wyoming really like Mitt Romney almost as much as Utah... aren't there skinheads in idaho...dont mormons not like black people...and wyoming, shrug, must have a lot of white people living in rural areas.
these are the reasons they vote, not for the country, but for their own ignorance to live on... too bad, so sad, guess you can die alone now. EIA


I have the feeling ignorance is probably not something you should criticize others for.

i love how Idaho and Wyoming really like Mitt Romney almost as much as Utah... aren't there skinheads in idaho...dont mormons not like black people...and wyoming, shrug, must have a lot of white people living in rural areas.

these are the reasons they vote, not for the country, but for their own ignorance to live on... too bad, so sad, guess you can die alone now. EIA

EDIT: and with the election over and Obama ahead 303 electoral votes to 203... we can plainly see that lots of mormons live in Idaho, Wyoming, as well as their base of Utah... lol.

and my state legalized cannabis.

freedom rings!

It seems odd how this program leaves out the part where the polygamists leave Utah for Mexico, including Romney's great grandfather.

These, like most insidious religious rituals seem pretty harmless on the surface. That's a pretty neat cult they've built up in Utah.