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eric3579 (Member Profile)

radx says...

Three pieces for your entertainment:

The Grauniad ran an opinion piece by former NYT executive editor Jill Abramson abtly titled "This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest". The headline is enough to make my head spin, nevermind the content. Not worth spending time on, really. You can guess what the comment section thought of it. Not surprisingly, it was closed after an hour.

Worth a read, however, is a recent polemic by Sean Kerrigan: Will We Elect Hillary After Her Many, Many War Crimes?

What made me laugh was this: the supposed presidential frontrunner would have been hanged if judged by the standards set at the Nuremberg Trials, yet Amal Clooney, a human rights lawyer, holds a fundraiser for Clinton at $350k per pair for seats at her majesty's table. Who the hell needs satire anyway, not even Doug Stanhope could come up with most of the twisted shit reality confronts us with day in, day out.

Last but not least, Robert Fisk wonders why neither Cameron nor Obama seem to be celebrating the retaking of Palmyra from the IS.

"Here are the Syrian army, backed, of course, by Vladimir Putin's Russkies, chucking the clowns of Isis out of town, and we daren't utter a single word to say well done."

blankfist (Member Profile)

Fisk: Why Americans Stopped Trusting Journalists

Yogi says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

American "journalists" (minus FOX) gave up any pretense of objectivity in 2007 when they rolled up their sleeves and joined the Obama campaign.
State-run media deserves to fail.


QM I demand that you read Robert Fisks book "The Great War for Civilisation". It's huge but it's really good and he's actually interviews Osama Bin Laden, so it's quite informative and interesting.

Fisk: Why Americans Stopped Trusting Journalists

Robert Fisk speaks at Frontline Club New York Event

Robert Fisk speaks at Frontline Club New York Event

Robert Fisk on WMD in Iraq, Iran and Pakistan

siftbot says...

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Ron Paul Calls Out "Fiscal Conservatives" Defunding NPR...

Robert Fisk: "Obama Is Worse Than Bush!"

Robert Fisk: "Obama Is Worse Than Bush!"

Robert Fisk: "Obama Is Worse Than Bush!"

Robert Fisk on Obama, Afghanistan, and Power

Yogi says...

Robert Fisk is an interesting guy, often very negative and cynical, but still a very serious journalist. I've read his book "The Great War for Civilisation" twice. It documents his reports from middle east among numerous wars and genocides and everything in between. It's an incredible book and after reading it I can absolutely see why he is the way he is. He's on the other side of the wall, looking at horror and mayhem no human should have to take in all at once.

In contrast Noam Chomsky is resoundingly positive on how he views the future and the victories won for peace and justice around the world. It's not Robert Fisks job to analyze those things though, it's only his job to live in the horror and report on it. So him being negative and cynical is a sort of byproduct of seeing the worst of mankind almost constantly.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

Rotty says...

>> ^Diogenes:
the total costs of the 'clinton blowjob' investigation also include years' worth of whitewater investigations begun under independent counsel robert fiske -- ken starr replaced him, and then further investigations were tacked on... namely travelgate, filegate, and finally the paula jones civil suit leading to the breaking of the lewinsky story...
the total pricetag for seven years of multiple investigations? approximately 70 to 80 million
let's also keep in mind that it wasn't 'clinton getting a blowjob' that incurred these expenses, rather that there were shady land deals, as well as questionable firings of whitehouse travel staff, and improper access of fbi files... being investigated parallel to his sexual harrassment (paula jones) case while arkansas governor - the latter led to lewinsky... and it was then that clinton was charged with PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.... not just getting a bj
the cost of the lewinsky portion of the investigation, and that which caused the two above charges, is estimated at 6.7 to 7.2 million dollars
the total cost of the 9-11 investigation was 12 million dollars... 3 million initially allocated, and another 9 million of a requested 11 million allocated later
finally, as to the 'gop spen[ding] more money' ... well, the original investigation was initiated at clinton's request... through janet reno, who was appointed by clinton himself -- and reno appointed fiske, and then fiske was replaced--using a law of special counsel (originally created by a democrat-controlled congress in 1978) reenacted by clinton--by starr who was appointed by an independent three-judge panel to continue the whitewater investigation - also remember that starr had previously been the leading candidate for a us supreme court seat, but was deemed 'not conservative enough' by the gop... and therefore h.w. bush nominated david souter
yeah, there was monkey-business besides clinton and a cigar, but let's not forget the basic facts


Why muddy your propaganda with facts, escpecially when the fact don't support you.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

Diogenes says...

the total costs of the 'clinton blowjob' investigation also include years' worth of whitewater investigations begun under independent counsel robert fiske -- ken starr replaced him, and then further investigations were tacked on... namely travelgate, filegate, and finally the paula jones civil suit leading to the breaking of the lewinsky story...

the total pricetag for seven years of multiple investigations? approximately 70 to 80 million

let's also keep in mind that it wasn't 'clinton getting a blowjob' that incurred these expenses, rather that there were shady land deals, as well as questionable firings of whitehouse travel staff, and improper access of fbi files... being investigated parallel to his sexual harrassment (paula jones) case while arkansas governor - the latter led to lewinsky... and it was then that clinton was charged with PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.... not just getting a bj

the cost of the lewinsky portion of the investigation, and that which caused the two above charges, is estimated at 6.7 to 7.2 million dollars

the total cost of the 9-11 investigation was 12 million dollars... 3 million initially allocated, and another 9 million of a requested 11 million allocated later

finally, as to the 'gop spen[ding] more money' ... well, the original investigation was initiated at clinton's request... through janet reno, who was appointed by clinton himself -- and reno appointed fiske, and then fiske was replaced--using a law of special counsel (originally created by a democrat-controlled congress in 1978) reenacted by clinton--by starr who was appointed by an independent three-judge panel to continue the whitewater investigation - also remember that starr had previously been the leading candidate for a us supreme court seat, but was deemed 'not conservative enough' by the gop... and therefore h.w. bush nominated david souter

yeah, there was monkey-business besides clinton and a cigar, but let's not forget the basic facts

The Demise of the US Dollar

grubert says...

Robert Fisk's article is here. The basket of currencies to replace the US dollar in the oil market would be comprised of "...[the] Chinese yuan, the Euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar."



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