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Of Course I'm Trying To Indoctrinate You In My Beliefs

CrushBug says...

And he just conflated Roe vs. Wade with butt sex.

He thinks that rights = personal beliefs.

Rights and laws exist to protect society, especially the minorities. Sure "Christianity" might be in the majority, but majority isn't a reason to impose that religion on others.

If you are a Christian, you don't believe in 99 other religions, so you are just 1 away from being an Atheist (-Ricky Gervais).

"We won, so we get to be RACIST again! Whooooooo!"

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george carlin-how language is used to mask truth

dannym3141 says...

Let's remember he's a comedian, it's pretty facile to overlook the fact that he has to be both entertaining and funny regardless of the message he wants to get across. It is extremely difficult to be funny enough to attract widespread popularity as a comedian and at the same time exhaustively cover a nuanced topic to deliver the most devastatingly convincing points.

I know it's that difficult because no one can do it. Ricky Gervais tries to do it sometimes but he either sacrifices the comedy in lieu of the message or vice versa. Who is to say if he would be as popular as he is now if he didn't do that?

So then is it better to make the perfect point to a smaller number of people, or to make a point to a lot of people and hopefully inspire them to take an interest or discuss it? Well, here we are discussing it, so i think he probably achieved exactly what he wanted to.

Carlin said that if the context is right, any word is fine. But in your "stupid" example, you try to discredit Carlin by describing a context which is clearly not right. So it turns out this is just a strawman argument. He didn't say he wants people called stupid (or retarded) or n-word like the old days, he said that words like retarded and n-word are ok in context. I don't know how you can disagree with that. I also don't know why i censored the n-word because the context was right, but it felt a bit gratuitous when i wrote it.

Babymech said:

I think most of his examples are specious and his fundamental point is grossly shortsighted and insular. When he says 'words don't mean negative things by themselves; context matters,' he's almost right - but the context isn't just the speaker's intent,* it's a million other factors, things that Carlin pointedly ignores.

Still, I know a lot of the Sift audience wants to think that Carlin's point rings true. But does anyone think that it would be more useful, more constructive, and more honest, to call every learning disability 'stupidity'? How would that help us in any way? What could we accomplish with the help of this 'honesty'?


*It's also not 'just' the listener's experience

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Ricky Gervais Was A Wannabe Pop Star In The 80's

A10anis says...

Just read your "charming" comment regarding Craig Ferguson and now you vent your jealous bile on Ricky Gervais. Hmm, it is clear to see who the sad little man is. They have achieved something, your contribution is what exactly???

billpayer said:

such an egotist, now he's just 'a sad little fat man'

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