Update: SB808 by Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles: Saw this guy's ineloquent (seriously flawed use of the English language, no semantic skills whatsoever) press conference announcing this attempt by California to create another fantasy law concerning "ghost guns."

Here's the tool's entire diatribe as California try's another vain attempt to reign-in a police state.

Since this topic appears to have gone off the reservation, let me reign you back in for a moment.

I encourage you to re-watch the video we're commenting on.

This whole discussion, including the commentary by Jon Stewart on the Daily Show, is all a response to Judge Napolitano's comments, on what is supposed to be an actual news network and, I imagine, supposed to be taken seriously?

Napolitano says: "Instead of allowing it to die, helping it to die, or even purchasing the slaves and then freeing them, which would have cost a lot less money than the Civil War cost, Lincoln set out on the most murderous war in American history."

That's what he said. In this very video, which is what we're all commenting on.

I just quoted you claiming that Napolitano believes that the Lincoln pursued the war to restore the union, when that's exactly what he's not saying here.

You're attacking the comedians for making jokes about this and accusing them for doing what Napolitano just did!

He's the one claiming that Lincoln attacked the south to free the slaves!

So, again I ask, what are you even talking about?

This video, the daily show response, all of this argument, was supposed to be about Napolitano being totally wrong. I originally commented here because you were parroting his claims that Lincoln had a lot of options, but chose "murderous war" instead of buying every slave or whatever other imagined option you think he had.

So either you understand why the Civil War started, and we agree, as you sometimes seem to indicate, or you're in agreement with Napolitano and his view that Lincoln started the Civil War as one of his apparently many options for ending slavery.

So which is it?

Do you understand why you make no sense?

while you did need to reign it in there. It wouldn't have happened had not a certain someone completely changed the topic of the sift.

used to be about creationists remember before it got derailed...as usual

In his adult life, Kevin McCallister was the most inventive, yet hideously sadistic serial killer the FBI ever investigated. They only managed to capture him by working with 2 reluctant convicts, the first and only surviving victims of McCallister reign of terror, in a plea deal to reduce their sentence they agree lure McCallister out with the most tempting kind of bait: the 2 that got away

I thought the argument was that he shouldn't be legitimizing the reign of a totalitarian dictator in the first place by being so buddy-buddy with him. But since he's there and has the guy's ear...

...and those programmed to be left-leaning are as distracted by bread and circuses as the worst of the clueless right-The real power comes for the left if gears change and the focus becomes financial institutions and political lackeys who fool you into thinking your power is in a vote or a cause-They hook you with bleeding-heart pet-causes and the distraction continues-

There is no stopping the insanity of a world controlled by a hi-jacked economy and you are powerless unless this becomes the focus of all activism. The FBI is untouchable today, as well as the surveillance infrastructure. All these pieces of the puzzle become powerless when you stop paying attention to the farcical slave-economy and the coming world police state.

The real success of programming shagen, comes from each generation becoming thicker, stupider, and programmed to be slaves for shit-tickets to buy more 'stuff' with.

All you need is food and love babies, and they have almost cornered the market on edibles that are not toxic for body, mind, and soul.

The shit they are capable of today makes Cointelpro look like a kindergarten spelling test.


Wholly disagree with the idea that the exposure of Coinitelpro caused the government to "reign-in" a GODDAMN thing. They simply do what all failing or exposed nefarious empires do when their shit starts to stink to everyone....They go into hiding or became instantly more sophisticated then provided a suitable distraction with money and television bullshitting.

Hardly much more sophisticated, the fucking president a year later used his own intelligence resources to break-into the Watergate hotel-A lot of sleepy motherfuckers on this sight should wake the fuck up and stop smelling their own farts long enough to realize that the 'left' and 'right' are the same fucking illusion.

Humans are easily-programmable units and universities are a perfect place to begin a new era of bullshit.

The program has never changed, and these fucks hold all cards except the mind and soul cards.

Oh crap, don't start that, because then the dogs will want in on the action.
And after all, they will both want to reign, cats and dogs!

Heard of this guy before but can't quite get the notoriety. Sounds like he's trying really hard and it's not particularly amusing. Is he all about the rant?

Trying to work out where he's from, sounds like he's trying to reign in a Midlands accent.

They missed a few? Like Stalin saying he was kind of moderate so he could complete a reign of genocide that was pretty Hitler-ish? But hey, there were a lot of American scandals and we should focus there. I personally think genocide is worse than, say, sex scandals but meh, who can judge.

Isn't this that boring-ass flick that dropped like a lead sock with Defoe fuckin' in the woods??
Yeah yeah, chaos reigns, go fuck yourself!

i lived in chicago for a spell many years ago.
great people.
great music.
deep dish pizza can suck a dick.
though the hot dogs are pretty damn good,as are the brats (which i had never had before).
northeast pizza reigns supreme,deny this and you hate kittens and puppies.

why do you hate kittens and puppies?

'system where chaos reigns'...Sounds like a fiiiine system -Let's try another model and see how that works-

Your video, mark fiore-america for sale-let free market reign, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

so I'm just going to own up to my SC2 newbishness. why did Dune quit?

he only had a probe or 2 to kill and he would have had free reign on the last nexus. It would have been insanely hard for Necros to mine anything wouldn't it?

Did I miss anything of what you wrote?

> "and i am ok with that.
> if we can limit government intrusion.
> allow companies to tank when they fail."

Great!

> "rewrite the corporate charter (or dissolve them completely,or as i suggested
> previously make them accountable and put back the phrase "for the public good").
> reign in bank fraud and make the rules to keep em honest."

Yes. And all this you can do without a government monopoly lording over it.

> "in my opinion the only thing we really seem to disagree on is when it is in regards
> to labor."

I don't know. What's the perceived disagreement about labor?
The problem with not being able to have an employee owned bar has to do with not having a free market. In a free market, you can own whatever you want to own with whomever you want to own it with (as long as they agree too).
Or is there some other labor "disagreement" I missed?

It seems there is some confusion as to what "free market" means. It means "free."
Unrestricted except by voluntarily entered contracts and adherence to non-aggression of person/property.
Non-aggression being a "natural" contract of sorts.
Making it "illegal" to have an employee-owned bar violates the rights to voluntary agreements/contracts, self-ownership, property, and voluntary associations.
There is no enforceable "common good" except respecting individual rights to self and property.