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SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN: Second Thoughts About Fluoride (Science Talk Post)

rembar says...

Qruel, one week ago, I gave you an offer to step up to a challenge. I asked you to develop an argument from an article that you felt comfortable about enough to justify copying and pasting someone else's summary into the Science channel's sift talk, and I agreed to respond in kind when you had done so. I did this partly because I wanted you to recognize that you have an intellectual responsibility for arguing and defending your own opinions through elaboration beyond citation of evidence, and partly because I was quite sure (and now am almost positive) that you are so full of shit as to post about an article that you have clearly never read. It was, as Choggie so eloquently put it, a call to scholarship. I gave my challenge seven days ago, with a deadline set for five days ago. After a full week has lapsed, you failed to rise to the occasion, and you failed to demonstrate an ounce of reason or intelligence.

I chose this thread and this moment to put my foot down because, for too long, you have been allowed to spew stupidity all over my channel. I have watched you and asked you before to stop doing so. You have consistently posted bad videos and comments. You have made attacks on my intellectual, academic, and scientific abilities. It disturbs me that you have not once stopped or even hesitated on your rollercoaster ride of loudly-proclaimed militant ignorance, to the point that I fear you have had or will have a detrimental effect on the Sift, and from the looks of this thread I am not alone in that fear.

Beyond even that, you have simply failed to realize that merely parroting the words of scientists by copying and pasting their work is unacceptable when forming a scientific argument. When I confront you on points in this research, you back behind these scientists and instead attempt to incite me to attack them rather than debate you. Not only is it rather insipid, it is fundamentally intellectually dishonest. The scientists, the educated men and women who have put forth research, work, thought into their careers and chosen areas of expertise, may make their opinions known, but you have no right to lay claim to their voices and their work, nor does anyone. If one is going to put forward an argument, one must stand behind that argument with one's own mind and only use others' voices and research to supplement those arguments. Should one fail to do these things, one should be branded as an intellectual coward and a fool, and this is perhaps the most fitting description of you I can imagine.

Qruel, I gave you a challenge, and not only did you fail to meet it, you responded with more blather and more personal attacks and more linking and more hiding behind scientists' work. Perhaps one day you will be able to prove you are worth a modicum of respect. Honestly, I expect that day will be closely followed by wailing of women and gnashing of teeth and the riding of the Four Horsemen, but I'll leave the possibility open. Until then, I am not going to bother putting you in your place verbally unless I'm so inclined. You are a coward and a moron, and I have no reason to waste my time dealing with your juvenile antics.

I will continue to throw all your stupid videos and Sift Talk posts down the well so that Science can be free, and I will not feel the need to justify doing so. Any good videos or sift talks you happen to post will be allowed to remain in the Science channel, although I doubt that will happen very often if at all. Any videos or sift talks you happen to pollute will also be put under review to be sent to the chokey.

These are the first of the changes I will be making to the moderation of the Science channel. You will be dealt with further as it is seen fit. Good day.


To everyone else:
Science is at war.

Over the course of the next few weeks or months, the Science channel will be undergoing changes in moderation, setup, and control. And we will be launching the largest change in this history of the Science channel.

Science - that word's importance should carry meaning to all of us today.

We can't be consumed by petty arguments with people who have no understanding or knowledge of science anymore.

We must be united in our common interest in science.

Perhaps it's fate that today is the 6th of February, the day that the first human egg was fertilized in test tube, and that today we will once again be striving for the good of Science, not for fertilization of a single ovum - but for the fertilization of Science as a whole.

We will be fighting for our right to think, to know, to understand the world around us.

And as we begin on this day, the 6th of February will no longer be known as just one more day of the year, but as the day when the Sift declared in one voice:

"We will not go quietly into the night!

We will not vanish without a fight!

We're going to live on!

We're going to survive!

We're going to evolve!"

Today, we celebrate our Science Day!

Blackwater in New Orleans

bighead says...

winder did you vote for bush too? thats why the usa has the national guard. oh but there all over in Irac because noone in there right mind would go into the us military. You must know vary little about blackwarter. if you want to argue about blackwarter email Jeremy Scahill im shure will tear you a new ass in a debate on the out sourcing of military responsibilitys to private outfits.

Blackwater has no adequate oversight . The problem is if your in the army and you rape someone the mp"s can take you ass to the brig then you get a trial and so on. The system is bilt to do good. But on the other hand if your working for blackwater and you rape someone there are no miliitary police to come get your ass, because there all in Irac andafganistain or at least nowhere to be found. Thus blackwater is the prevailing authority. but you know what? blackwater cannot arrest its own employees because that is against the law. just like if you are at work and you break the law. your boss does not set up a trial for you. he/she call the cops, then you get a trial. So blackwater would have to make a formal complaint to the police. But again thats redundent because blackwater would be the prevailing authority. They have biger guns biger cars and more helecopters then the police. Bottom line is blackwater does what it wants. Stuff like rape accusations go unnoticed because the system was not set up to work like this.

But this is the way the MAN wants things to be in places like Irac and new orleans. Because the more chaos there is the beter it is for the MAN. The MAN can't inslave the blacks, so at least will treat them like shit or even kill them in the name of National Security. As in new orleans. And in reguards for Irac. A US military invasion would not be chaotic enough, so blackwater has been sent in fuck stuff up raeal good. If your rich they will hang out arouund your house so it looks like there doing something, but when no one looking thats when the damaage is done. and no ones looking if there is no oversight. read js books he will put you in your place if I have not.

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