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Oh god would you get over yourselves, just because a bunch of idiots are out there asking for Sharia law you somehow extrapolate it to mean that all people of that faith are the same, they are just as stupid as evangelical Christians. You take the stances of extremists of the religion, broadcast them as being representative of them all and then bitch about how no moderate voices make themselves heard even though they are there everyone from Tariq Ramadan, Imam Qazwini, Hamza Yusuf and Zarqa Nawaz .

Do you people even know what Geert Wilders stands for? He doesn't really have any beef towards Islam, he simply uses it as a political platform to attack the real elephant in the room no one mentions which is IMMIGRATION.

In the US its about Mexicans stealing jobs and weighing down the tax system because they also mostly happen to be Christians, in the Europe the debate is that they are all Muslims and are trying to steal our freedoms. Wilder's own claim is that Europeans will be 'diluted' culturally, wording that is not far from early imposition of segregation in World War 2. Only then Jews stole your money and polluted your minds.

Which is frankly stupid give that European birth rates are so low then need labor injections in the form of immigration to allow for continued Economic growth in the long run.

Netherlands is full of Moroccans, Algerians and Turks, who Wilders wants to be expelled, since alot of them are Muslim it fits in with his political stance.

Fitna was not created to create dialog or public debate, it is simply made to instigate violent confrontations between both parties, that is not public debate, that is simply creation of tension between parties. This is the same argument behind why books like Mein Kampf and the Elder Protocols of Zion are banned around Europe. Wilders himself has stated countless times that the Qu'ran needs to be ripped up, how would Christians feel about those kinds of allegations brought on by any Arab or Asian nation?

If what Fitna presents is factual, the clear logical conclusion is that all believers of Islam are thus extremist, but this flies in the face of large non violent Islamic denominations in the US, greater Europe, countries in the GCC and South East Asia.

As for the claims of Europe being a "Western society which has laid the foundation for the most equitable and enlightened era in human history." I think you need to read about colonialism, World War 2, Falkland Islands, Bosnian War and the involvement in Iraq.

Ok... first off, I'm merely trying to learn about the protocols of zion. It's written out very carefully and I admit that it may be a forgery, a fake, a hoax. I surely hope that it is, however there are parallels that raise alarms in the United States that is extremely troubling to patriots that wish to preserve the Constitution and national sovereignty of this great nation that our forefathers/founders intended for a truly free and non-oppressive country where immigrants from oppressive nations can find refuge (although we are starting to become a bit crowded and immigration is a little out of control thanks to NAFTA and the SPP).

1.) A shadow government has been exposed with massive control in our government.

2.) The Constitution is being subverted, violated, and slowly being trumped by the Executive branch which has also managed to virtually disable the Justice department and constantly vetoes important bills from the Senate. Some of this is justified due to the amount of pork and earmarks added to these important bills... the Senate and HR bill process needs to be revised to control the abuse of the vulnerabilities of this great but less-than-perfect system.

3.) I know some wonderful Jewish people and I don't wish to sound anti-semitic because I respect my Jewish friends very much, however... there are many powerful Jewish people that I feel are hurting this country and I despise - such as Silverstein, Ariel Sharon, Media giant Murdoch, Senator Charles Schumer, Alan Greenspan, Paul Wolfowitz and most importantly: Henry Kissinger.

4.) Silverstein profited big time (7 Billion dollars) on the tragedy of 9/11 from which he purchased the WTC and a multi-million dollar policy a few months before 9/11.
Mukasey (current Attorney General @ Justice dept selected by Bush) was the Judge that presided over this case.

5.) Media monopolist Murdoch continues to buy up any media source of signifigance.

6.) When Bush finally appointed someone to head the 9/11 commission (14 months after), he appointed Henry Kissinger - then realizing the fact that Kissinger which when confronted with the verifiable ties he and the Bush's has to the Bin Ladens he then stepped down from the position.

7.) The Bush family and the CIA has intimate ties with the Bin Ladens and Saudi oil tycoons and Israeli officials.

When Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres warned Prime minister Ariel Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

9.) For decades the US has provided Israel with crucial military, diplomatic and financial backing, including more than $3 billion each year in aid.

10.) Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has spoken with blunt exasperation about the Jewish-Israeli hold on the United States:

"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."

11.) I will agree that the protocols is a hoax only because it may very well be, however the things that are occurring in this country seem to prove otherwise. Hate me if you wish.... call me anti-semitic, call me the malicious names as you have in the past if you wish, but I've seen some very questionable things happening in regards to powerful Jewish ppl. I hope your right and I'm wrong.

12.) I will continue to research this and other topics and I thank God (if there even is one) that we have the internet to discuss such issues. The mass media seems to be mostly trivial crap focused on entertaining people keeping them from focusing on the seriousness of the problems with our government. This is one of the agendas in the PoZ but I'm sure that's just coincidence because it's a hoax intended to make people hate Jews, right?

P.S. qualm: When I refer to International Bankers, I don't mean it in code as as you continually perpetuate as it's meaning... International Bankers means to most people just what it implies... check wikipedia and that one video I posted: http://www.videosift.com/video/The-CFR-The-Capitalist-Conspiracy at the 1:15 mark for more modern definitions of the term. International Bankers are not just Jewish people.

Tell us then... who do you think should be the best candidates running for president from what we have to choose from and why?

Also you seem to think that I'm insinuating that you were the person that attempted to alter the protocols of zion wiki article. Please, I wasn't referring to you.. "somebody" does not mean you so don't take it that way please.

First off, I've been in the hospital for a week and a half.
Secondly, after reading the protocols of Zion, I didn't find it to be anti-semitic.. it was more of a plan for eventual world domination carefully laid out focusing on many facets of the various weaknesses of societies, political structures and political denominations. It was a brilliant yet scary plan. Give me some time to recover from my injuries and I will study it in more detail.
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I'm curious, now that you've had some time, do you still consider the vile anti-semitic "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" hoax to be neither anti-semitic nor a hoax?

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is as anti-semitic as possible by the very definition of the term, and also a forgery. You've been fooled.

You said something about a documentary. I've just posted the trailer to a documentary on the Protocols of Zion -- http://www.videosift.com/video/Protocols-of-Zion-Documentary-Trailer. In the comments section I've posted a link to the full documentary that I've just learned Fedquip has posted.

Like I said -- you've been fooled.

By the way, that very disturbing site you sent me in the above post and your earlier comment in my profile (this one: http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2007/10/protocols-of-zion-in-modern-english.html) has direct links to several hardcore racists like David Duke, former grand poobah or whatever of the KKK. Nice work, kiddo!



Constitutional_Patriot wrote:

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The wikipedia article you linked to doesn't show this as a hardcore anti-semitic document, and claims that it's not a hoax, however there is someone on there according to the history of the entry that keeps trying to purvey it as such. It's claimed that it's not anti-semitic, but is a doctrine for ultimately achieving world domination. Whether it is true or not I don't know, but if anything it correlates with some of your past comments and I didn't know about it until you sparked my interest in the subject. I think it's definitely a topic of discussion and maybe a documentary or two might help to focus the light on the document and it's validity.

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Wrong, wrong and wrong again. That's plain crazy what you just wrote.

Re DailyKos: I've heard of the Daily Kos but it's hardly "extreme far left," ie. Stalinist/Maoist. It's merely a run-of-the-mill USian liberal website. 'Left-wing' and 'liberal' are not interchangeable terms.

The article you will find at that site you refuse to read references the original content on Ron Paul's racism -- which you asked for.

I've also noticed that's the second time you've insinuated that I've altered a wikipedia article for the sake of my argument. For the record, I've never edited or written an entry at wikipedia. The very suggestion is, quite frankly, beyond the pale.

I just discovered that Fedquip has posted the entire documentary here:

http://www.videosift.com/video/HBO-Protocols-of-the-elders-of-Zion

All of this arose from my discussion with Constitutional_Patriot about Ron Paul's racism -- where Constitutional_Patriot refuses to accept the fact that the Protocols of Zion is an anti-semitic hoax and forgery -- found here: http://www.videosift.com/video/Freedom-is-Popular

Constitutional_Patriot wrote:

"The wikipedia article you linked to doesn't show this as a hardcore anti-semitic document, and claims that it's not a hoax, however there is someone on there according to the history of the entry that keeps trying to purvey it as such. It's claimed that it's not anti-semitic, but is a doctrine for ultimately achieving world domination. Whether it is true or not I don't know, but if anything it correlates with some of your past comments and I didn't know about it until you sparked my interest in the subject. I think it's definitely a topic of discussion and maybe a documentary or two might help to focus the light on the document and it's validity."

Very disturbing!

Are you trying to say, by your completely irrelevant anecdote, that you don't acknowledge the racism of Ron Paul's statements? If that's the case then you're truly hopeless.

Constitutional_Patriot wrote:

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"However you did spark my interest to find out what you were talking about on some points and I ended up reading a very revealing document called the Protocols of Zion, thanks."

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Do you actually not realize that the Protocols of Zion are hardcore anti-semitism AND completely debunked as a forgery and a hoax?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion


Earlier I had declared you to be "susceptible" but I had no idea to just what extent this was true.


Ron Paul's racist comments were published in the "Ron Paul Political Report" renamed "The Ron Paul Survival Report".

More on that here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

well... for one, I have been robbed by a black teen-aged male when I grew up in Miami.. He was fleet-footed, holding my gold necklace in his hand while others like him gathered to defend him against me by throwing rocks when I tried to chase him. That being said, I've never told anyone about that incident before and I don't dislike black people... it's just what happened one day and being fleet-footed really has nothing to do with race.

I think you really enjoy bringing up racial issues and making them your pinnacle of debate. You tried to make me out to be anti-semetic before while I had absolutely no inclination of the subject. However you did spark my interest to find out what you were talking about on some points and I ended up reading a very revealing document called the Protocols of Zion, thanks.

There are good and bad people in all walks of life.. but some are heavily influenced by their communities.

Secondly.. can you please cite these statements? when and where were they said by him?

and what exactly do you mean by "blame the employee" excuse?

So you think we don't spy on our allies? You really think they will get the same results by "asking"? Have you read the protocols of Zion? There's plenty of explanation as to why they would spy on us there. I'm not against Israel, I like many of their people, however I can't say that I trust them. I've seen too many wolves in sheep clothing throughout my life.