"I didn't say that. My point was "quit suggesting it used to be better"."

It was better under Clinton.

“Iraq is just a blip compared to Vietnam.”

So now we’re not supposed to say or do anything about Iraq until it gets as bad as Vietnam?

“Melodramatic.”

Melodramatic is acting like the world is going to end because you can’t have ice cream for desert.

America is under the control of a secretive administration that has no qualms with locking people up without charge, and spying on its own citizens. It is currently threatening a nuclear first strike on Iran. There is strong evidence that they stole two presidential elections and will not hesitate to steal a third. They blocked investigations into 9/11. Our debt is skyrocketing, our dollar is weakening, and thousands of innocent people are being killed or injured every week. Those are very real and pressing problems which concern me greatly.

On top of all that, we are seeing more and more overzealous police/security forces and little indication that the trend will subside. In this case, a girl’s wrist was broken over some spilled cake, and the student who recorded the incident was arrested.

There’s nothing melodramatic about it.

In one of your posts above you equated people who report police brutality with “whiners” and “rats.”

That says more about the real you than you will ever realize.

If you think things are getting better under the Bush administration, and that they will fix themselves of their own accord, your ignorance should be registered with the local authorities.

I doubt you're Canadian. You're one of the local republican retards hiding behind an alternate nic. You're a conservative or a republican because, as our government did with the Patraeus/Betray Us incident, you focused more on the criticism, and ignored the veracity of its message.

I think the MoveOn ad against Patraeus was spot on; we should be "getting in their faces" like that every chance we get, because it's the only thing the conservative republican pro-war profiteers respond to.

They're not fooling anybody: they can denounce the ad all they want, but they cannot address the truth of it. People know that, and people are starting to see that.

A lot of people, myself included, joined MoveOn because of that ad, and MoveOn rasied a half-million dollars as a result of it.

It’s a pity that Patraeus has been molded into the Bush political system of partisanship over honesty and transparency. I mean here is the guy who had considerable success in rebuilding Mosul through public works projects and political reinvigoration even though it later became a battleground following an assassination. He rightly went against the official policy of aiming to cut and run, and succeeded in restoring a degree of stability. Had such tactics been applied more unilaterally, perhaps we would be faced with a very different situation.

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I watched it live and nearly wretched. Wasn't going to give it a vote, but jonny made a good point.

The disgusting thing is that everything that Patraeus said could have been predicted by any critic who has been following the activities of the Bush administration.

All is well, we're making progress, just give us another six months; repeat.

Compare this to what Patraeus said today, and it's clear to me that Patraeus is lying out his ass.

The military claims violence is down because they have stopped counting casualties from certain types of violence, like car bombings.

It's a disgrace, and yes, I would go so far as to call it treason.

Too true.

Funny why our congress didn't ask an elected official from Iraq to the Patraeus briefing today.

Wonder why?