Mashiki, what metrics are you using to measure racism? I think your saying one group or another is most racist based on nothing but your feelings and anecdotes is ridiculous. What tangible, measurable results were there from blacks hating blacker people, for example? That's how I determine who is the most racist.

And in the US, whites are able to and do enforce their bigoted sentiment on other groups quite often and quite easily. Look at redlining, the criminal justice system, job discrimination, hate violence, etc. How have american blacks oppressed american whites? Sure, you can dig and find a some very rare cases of individuals doing this, but show me where the average american white man gets the bum deal that the average Zimbabwean white man would get from their black (or latino, or asian) countrymen.

It's not a perfect world for american whites by any means, but I don't know any american white crazy enough to trade places with an american black. Maybe you do, since you think minorities get a "free ride". It-is-to-laugh.

As I said pp, racism is a matter of perspective. The countries I cited are making demonstrable efforts to be egalitarian with respect to ethnicity, just like we in the US are. In Singapore, a chinese was jailed for posting a racist anti-malay website; if america had the same standards, how many would be jailed? In Malaysia, several ethnic and religious groups take part in the government; while Americans have only recently seen their first muslim congressman. South Africa has shown great restraint to the white population there in light of the history of apartheid. Kenya is actively making strides and overtures to its Muslim population and for reconciliation of its various tribal groups; even african whites fled there from Zimbabwe. And finally, like it or not, in 20 years blacks will dominate brasil; the demographic math there is more pronounced than for arabs in Israel. Even now brasilian blacks are fighting discrimination and making measurable gains.

All of these examples still don't help your flimsy racial theory that puts whites as the most angelic beings in the universe. A Singaporean chinese will say the same. A Kenyan black will say the same. A Malay Malaysian will say the same. Any number of ethnic people who dominate their respective countries sing the same tune. Hell, even the arabs in this video would say the same.

But, only a cursory glance at (even recent) history would show that is simply not the case for any of these groups.

In case anyone's curious, here are the lyrics:

A cockroach in the concrete, courthouse tan and beady eyes.
A slouch with fallen arches, purging truths into great lies.
A little man with a big eraser, changing history
Procedures that he's programmed to, all he hears and sees.

Altering the facts and figures, events and every issue.
Make a person disappear, and no one will ever miss you.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

You say you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think maybe it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come.
I believe my kingdom will come.

Chorus
F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M, they will cover your grave with manure.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M is for money and you know what that cures.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

Put your hand right up my shirt,
Pull the strings that make me work,
Jaws will part, words fall out,
like a fish with hook in mouth.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

I'm not a fish
I'm a man with hook in mouth!

You might also wonder (as I did) WTF P.M.R.C stands for. It's the Parents Music Resource Center.

In short, this is a big rant about having to put a "Parental Advisory" sticker on albums that have songs that contain adult themes or explicit language.

Symphony of Destruction had far, far more meaning under Bush than Hook in Mouth. Contrarians who think Bush and Obama are peas in the pod can use that song to describe every President ever.

Peace Sells is another one that's easy to apply to Presidents you don't like.

>> ^StukaFox:
And Antarctica. But who wants endless random encounters with Leopard Seals and bored NOAA meteorologists?


Check out Penumbra: Overture. I think its actually set in the arctic, but its suprisingly fun and scary.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'classical music, chopper, gun' to 'classical music, chopper, gun, dvorak, carnival overture' - edited by dystopianfuturetoday

Dvorak - Carnival Overture

At the end of the shopping mall segment, it's Klazz Brothers & Cuba Percussi, 'Air'. The beach assault on the other hand was supplemented by Tchaikovsky's '1812 Overture'.

>> ^calvados:
I think I used to know this, but what's the name of the classical piece at the end?
/was_considered_smart_once

"The musical road was the idea of car-maker Honda. The firm said the grooves in the road were engineered to play the overture at perfect pitch for motorists driving Honda Civics at 55mph (88km/h)"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7627713.stm

Oh, I know. I thought it would be a funny little experiment, but I noticed that not a single other person had downvoted it, so I felt it necessary to
* kill so that I wouldn't accidentally be the person responsible for the crime of getting frickin' John Tesh SIFTED! (violent shudders at the thought...)

In reply to this comment by Thylan:
The video. Bt i might have upvoted to lure others in had you not killed it

I am evil sometimes.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Horrifying, I know... but do you mean the comment or the video?

In reply to this comment by Thylan:
I only just found this. It was horrifying.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
*kill John Tesh! No, really. You think I'm kidding?

The video. Bt i might have upvoted to lure others in had you not killed it

I am evil sometimes.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Horrifying, I know... but do you mean the comment or the video?

In reply to this comment by Thylan:
I only just found this. It was horrifying.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
*kill John Tesh! No, really. You think I'm kidding?

Horrifying, I know... but do you mean the comment or the video?

In reply to this comment by Thylan:
I only just found this. It was horrifying.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
*kill John Tesh! No, really. You think I'm kidding?

OMG Chill kitty CHILL!!!!

PUT THE KNIFE DONW!!!!!

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Fucking *DISCARD THIS GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

>> ^SpeveO:
A good article addressing Hitchen's claims around this time. Much of which has been recycled in this 'debate.'
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/09/05/hitchens/index.html
Hitchen's lost his charm a long time ago.


A 'good' article? Having read through it I didn't see anything that Hitchens' hadn't already addressed. Example:

Hitchens next lists as an achievement of the Iraq war the "capitulation" of Moammar Gadhafi's Libya over its weapons of mass destruction programs. But Hitchens offers no proof whatsoever that Libya's overture had anything at all to do with the Iraq war. Rather, it is quite clear that Libya is a case where the European and U.S. economic sanctions placed on the country to punish it for its terrorist activities actually worked as designed. (European sanctions had already been lifted, in return for a change in Libyan behavior, in 1999. U.S. sanctions had not.)


And this is the character of the entire article. As Hitchens has since pointed out, the Iraq war was not the only influence, but it is rather important to note that Gadhafi did not go to the UN, nor to Europe, but to the British and the Americans. If the Iraq war was not an influence, why are it's biggest supporters the ones that Libya went to and has handed it's weapons to?

More on topic though, in this clip Hitchens and Reagan are talking about terrorist ties in Iraq and Reagan embarasses himself.

There are some movies that I can't watch unless they're in a cinema (or maybe, maybe a 'home equivalent', but it'd have to be a pretty fucking spectacular setup). 2001 is definitely one of them. My first viewing of it was at a cinema here that plays more to the 'arthouse' crowd, so the audience was fine. I had no idea what to expect and was blown away by how good it was!

Your overture experience reminds me of Dancer in the Dark - supposedly they had to re-do the start of the film and add in visual imagery because American audiences were getting confused as to why there was sound but the 'film' hadn't started. Luckily the copy I saw here didn't have the imagery, so I was able to get swept up in Bjork's haunting music.

I see. At least we don't see those videos anymore. Good research, by the way.

In reply to this comment by hoju:
There was no hate involved - nothing personal at least. I was trying to point out that we were seeing a lot of those types of videos and I was a little sick of them, and yes, I was a bit of an ass about it. That comment still makes me laugh though.

In reply to this comment by Fjnbk:
Why all the hate?

In reply to this comment by hoju:
WOW! Right before I came across this post, I was thinking to myself, "you know what I've NEVER seen before? Someone taking footage of atomic explosions and then putting MUSIC to it... I bet that would be a wicked awesome idea!" and then here it was. The most unique and revolutionary concept EVER. Congrats to you for coming up with it!

http://www.videosift.com/video/Atomic-Bomb
http://www.videosift.com/video/massive-attack-1946-atomic-bomb-test-at-bikini-atoll
http://www.videosift.com/video/Nuclear-Power
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sad-Storm-A-Nuclear-History
http://www.videosift.com/video/GYBE-Rockets-Fall-on-Rocket-Falls
http://www.videosift.com/video/nuclear-explosion-compilation
http://www.videosift.com/video/Underground-Nuclear-Bomb-Testing-INTENSE-Music
http://www.videosift.com/video/Orchestral-string-music-and-nuclear-explosions-haunting

and my favorite:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Big-Boom--2

There was no hate involved - nothing personal at least. I was trying to point out that we were seeing a lot of those types of videos and I was a little sick of them, and yes, I was a bit of an ass about it. That comment still makes me laugh though.

In reply to this comment by Fjnbk:
Why all the hate?

In reply to this comment by hoju:
WOW! Right before I came across this post, I was thinking to myself, "you know what I've NEVER seen before? Someone taking footage of atomic explosions and then putting MUSIC to it... I bet that would be a wicked awesome idea!" and then here it was. The most unique and revolutionary concept EVER. Congrats to you for coming up with it!

http://www.videosift.com/video/Atomic-Bomb
http://www.videosift.com/video/massive-attack-1946-atomic-bomb-test-at-bikini-atoll
http://www.videosift.com/video/Nuclear-Power
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sad-Storm-A-Nuclear-History
http://www.videosift.com/video/GYBE-Rockets-Fall-on-Rocket-Falls
http://www.videosift.com/video/nuclear-explosion-compilation
http://www.videosift.com/video/Underground-Nuclear-Bomb-Testing-INTENSE-Music
http://www.videosift.com/video/Orchestral-string-music-and-nuclear-explosions-haunting

and my favorite:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Big-Boom--2