That was fun, particularly the bits with Neo and Morpheus as star-crossed lovers and the voiceover guy doing all the Breaking Bad stuff at the end.

/upvote

Big brains, society, science, masturbation and graphic porn.


Rape is so common it's just the only evidence you need for the scum that is homo sapiens.
Mr Smith said it so well in the scene with Morpheus. We're a virus.

>> ^TheGenk:

Great, now you ruined the Matrix movie for me. How can I possibly take Morpheus serious from now on?


How could you at all? :-)

Great, now you ruined the Matrix movie for me. How can I possibly take Morpheus serious from now on?

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Good analysis. I too wish the Wachoskis had gone that route.>> ^timtoner:

I assiduously avoided any commentary about the film until I was able to judge it for myself, and was interested to see that Nolan had started work on the script while shooting Memento. Given that The Matrix came out in 1999 and Memento in 2000, it's not a stretch to consider that Nolan had seen The Matrix and, like the rest of us, was really thinking about it. Now most people HATEHATEHATE the Matrix sequels, but there's a moment at the end of the second one where it still could have been all right, where all the craziness would suddenly make sense, but the filmmakers would have to trust the audience to follow them down the rabbit hole. I speak of course of the moment when Neo raises his hand and shuts down the Sentinels. How the frick could he do that?!? The answer, to me, was obvious: Neo/Thomas Anderson realized that "The Desert of the Real" (as Morpheus referred to it) was just another construct fashioned by the machines. Everything we've been told supports this conclusion. I don't want to go into too much detail, but as I was watching Inception, it occurred to me that Nolan came to the exact same conclusion I did, and was just as pissed as I was when the Wachowskis failed to trust their audience (as seen in the third film). Inception, then, is a think piece not only about the nature of reality, but how little things can build to dangerous proportions if we let them.
To me, the most wonderful thing about Inception was its completely incomprehensible trailer. We were shown disparate images that make not a lick of sense, and left me feeling rather put out. Upon watching the film, I realized that the trailer showed us EVERYTHING without actually telling us ANYTHING. It was the fevered fragments of a dream, seconds after waking. Since that's pretty much what the movie is about, mission accomplished, trailer-makers.

I assiduously avoided any commentary about the film until I was able to judge it for myself, and was interested to see that Nolan had started work on the script while shooting Memento. Given that The Matrix came out in 1999 and Memento in 2000, it's not a stretch to consider that Nolan had seen The Matrix and, like the rest of us, was really thinking about it. Now most people HATEHATEHATE the Matrix sequels, but there's a moment at the end of the second one where it still could have been all right, where all the craziness would suddenly make sense, but the filmmakers would have to trust the audience to follow them down the rabbit hole. I speak of course of the moment when Neo raises his hand and shuts down the Sentinels. How the frick could he do that?!? The answer, to me, was obvious: Neo/Thomas Anderson realized that "The Desert of the Real" (as Morpheus referred to it) was just another construct fashioned by the machines. Everything we've been told supports this conclusion. I don't want to go into too much detail, but as I was watching Inception, it occurred to me that Nolan came to the exact same conclusion I did, and was just as pissed as I was when the Wachowskis failed to trust their audience (as seen in the third film). Inception, then, is a think piece not only about the nature of reality, but how little things can build to dangerous proportions if we let them.

To me, the most wonderful thing about Inception was its completely incomprehensible trailer. We were shown disparate images that make not a lick of sense, and left me feeling rather put out. Upon watching the film, I realized that the trailer showed us EVERYTHING without actually telling us ANYTHING. It was the fevered fragments of a dream, seconds after waking. Since that's pretty much what the movie is about, mission accomplished, trailer-makers.

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But it did have the fantastic fight scenes and massive special effects - but that's not what made the Matrix good.

For me, what made the Matrix a great movie was the moment that Thomas A. Anderson is sitting in that chair, after taking the red pill, and as a viewer you don't know what the fuck is about to happen. The moment, of him waking up in the pod, was one of the most impressive SF mind-fucks of all time.

I mentioned Moon because I think it's a good example of excellent character based Science Fiction. I thought the characters in Inception were completely forgettable. What were the names of anyone in that movie? I can't remember. But I still remember Thomas Anderson, Agent Smith, Trinity, Morpheus and even that little guy who ratted them out - (though not by name).

>> ^Sylvester_Ink:

Not sure what's with all the hate towards Inception lately. It really is a fantastic movie. There are a lot of comparisons to The Matrix, but I feel that it was a lot less pretentious and a lot more focused on the characters and emotions. It didn't have the fantastic fight scenes or massive special effects sequences, but it didn't need them. To focus on action and visuals would take away from the plot.
What impressed me the most was that not only was the movie stand-alone, not a sequel, based off a franchise, or a comic-book movie of any sort, but it was also relatively clean. There was no cursing, no sex or nudity, and the violence wasn't excessive. It's encouraging to see that a great science fiction movie can be made while still being PG-13.
As for the ending, I think it's quite clear that it doesn't matter whether Cobb was still dreaming or was awake. He finally got the happiness he was seeking, and decided not to further question it. People can argue one theory or another, but the driving point is that Cobb finally achieved his dream.
(And comparing it to Moon, Dag? Come on, the movies are of two completely different types and both are excellent in their own way. The more quality science-fiction movies the better.)

>> ^gwiz665:
You always had that power within you, Neo, you just had to realize it. B-)
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>> ^gwiz665:
.. ban
You gotta nuke it yourself, ant.

Oh, I didn't know I can discard SiftTalks too. Sweet, thanks all.


Thanks Morpheus. Now, to take down some agents!

Hmm this thread did not explode into a Matrix discussion as I like to see happen. I guess the time of those movies has long past. Hard to believe the first one is more than ten years old. The Matrix is now older now than Batman 1989 was when The Matrix came out. That blows my mind. Funny, in my opinion, you still don't see effects looking better than they did in Reloaded and Revolutions. The volume and density of the effects in the Zion battle are unbelievable.

I think it's almost criminal the way the first movie could have taken a place alongside Star Wars as the globe's real shared modern mythology of choice. A piece of pop culture so accessible yet profound at the same time, that was successfully designed to give satisfying takes on many different levels. A fucking movie that changed the way people looked at the world around them by having actual ideas behind the fury onscreen. And then they make the sequels and it's like mitichlorians plus Jar Jar Binks to the nth power. Still some awesome shit in the sequels between pure action and the ideas that were so overpackaged. I mean damn were they hard to love with all the nonsense and goofiness (Morpheus' speech, lol).

BYYRON MORPHEUS!!

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>> ^Farhad2000:
David Fincher has been doing this for years.



The first thing I thought of was "huh, this reminds me of the beginning of Fight Club". Then I saw Morpheus and thought "when are all the leather suit wearing chicks going to show up".


It was still pretty neat.

osnap! I love Morpheus!!