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Atheists Spreading the Word

qruel says...

thanks for the mulligan
so use the word fuck and bullshit and get labeled angry?
sheesh, just another way of calling shenanigan's.

Description of Burden of Proof
Burden of Proof is a fallacy in which the burden of proof is placed on the wrong side. Another version occurs when a lack of evidence for side A is taken to be evidence for side B in cases in which the burden of proof actually rests on side B. A common name for this is an Appeal to Ignorance. This sort of reasoning typically has the following form:


Claim X is presented by side A and the burden of proof actually rests on side B.
Side B claims that X is false because there is no proof for X.
In many situations, one side has the burden of proof resting on it. This side is obligated to provide evidence for its position. The claim of the other side, the one that does not bear the burden of proof, is assumed to be true unless proven otherwise. The difficulty in such cases is determining which side, if any, the burden of proof rests on. In many cases, settling this issue can be a matter of significant debate. In some cases the burden of proof is set by the situation. For example, in American law a person is assumed to be innocent until proven guilty (hence the burden of proof is on the prosecution). As another example, in debate the burden of proof is placed on the affirmative team. As a final example, in most cases the burden of proof rests on those who claim something exists (such as Bigfoot, psychic powers, universals, and sense data).

Examples of Burden of Proof

Bill: "I think that we should invest more money in expanding the interstate system."
Jill: "I think that would be a bad idea, considering the state of the treasury."
Bill: "How can anyone be against highway improvements?"

Bill: "I think that some people have psychic powers."
Jill: "What is your proof?"
Bill: "No one has been able to prove that people do not have psychic powers."

"You cannot prove that God does not exist, so He does."

Atheists Spreading the Word

qruel says...

Description of Begging the Question
Begging the Question is a fallacy in which the premises include the claim that the conclusion is true or (directly or indirectly) assume that the conclusion is true. This sort of "reasoning" typically has the following form.


Premises in which the truth of the conclusion is claimed or the truth of the conclusion is assumed (either directly or indirectly).
Claim C (the conclusion) is true.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because simply assuming that the conclusion is true (directly or indirectly) in the premises does not constitute evidence for that conclusion. Obviously, simply assuming a claim is true does not serve as evidence for that claim. This is especially clear in particularly blatant cases: "X is true. The evidence for this claim is that X is true."

Some cases of question begging are fairly blatant, while others can be extremely subtle.

Examples of Begging the Question

Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God."

"If such actions were not illegal, then they would not be prohibited by the law."

"The belief in God is universal. After all, everyone believes in God."

Interviewer: "Your resume looks impressive but I need another reference."
Bill: "Jill can give me a good reference."
Interviewer: "Good. But how do I know that Jill is trustworthy?"
Bill: "Certainly. I can vouch for her."

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GT Countdown - Top Ten Scariest Video Games

AnimalsForCrackers says...

Resident Evil GC(sometimes called REmake) is for the Gamecube. I bought it along with RE 0 and RE 4, 10th anniversary edition package. Warning for the wary, it's very scary & very tough. Far tougher than the original as both Jill & Chris.

Scared Japanese Playing Resident Evil 2

AnimalsForCrackers says...

Blasphemy! This isn't Nemesis. Someone hasn't played RE:2, or at least all the way through. There are other "nemesis"-type B.O.W.s in Resident Evil's storyline (of which RE2 takes place before/after Nemesis) and the ones you see here are those. Can someone change the tags back? Jill Valentine was the protagonist in RE3, not Claire!

Tim and Mark's Dishwasher Disaster (Home Improvement)

Life, love and early termination fees.

dotdude says...

It's selling a service that helps you swap cell phone services. It's rather long for a commercial. I could do without the "See Spot run" storyline.

The uploader has not uploaded anything else. There are three other uploaders who have uploaded the same video. All three uploaders have only uploaded this video.

If this new sifter is trying to impress us, it isn't working.

I therefore say *ban.

Jill just got banned.

The Roots & Erykah Badu - You Got Me (+ Jill Scott original)

Mom on Celebrities

Period - lol (NSFW)

Period - lol (NSFW)

daphne says...

Did they REALLY have to show a dirty pad? If they did have to show one, did it HAVE to have a quart of blood on it?

*shudder*

(Good thing Jill asked, or Susie would have leaked on that beautiful chartreuse chair.)



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