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Mordhaus (Member Profile)

You are a woman in handcuffs? Let me punch and kick you!

lucky760 says...

At the arc of his wind-up right before he swings down that his fingers are extended up and out. Definitely a slap.

Still, my only point was is the marketing of this video as if a helpless woman is being savagely assaulted.

She kicked him and he slapped her.

Again, not a justified action by the cop, but also not a gang of violent, blood-thirsty cops pounding the shit out of a poor little innocent woman (which is more what I was expecting coming in here).

A title more to my liking would be along the lines of "Cop Overreacts to Minor Assault from Handcuffed Suspect." or "Hey, Stupid. Don't Kick Cops."

newtboy said:

To be fair, I looked closely. That totally looked like a closed fist to me, and a full force punch to the face, not a slap....followed by a forceful kick that missed.
Also, yes she kicked AT him, but did not appear to connect. I get she's idiotic to provoke the easily provoked thugs in blue. She obviously hasn't been paying attention to how they (over)react lately, and really she got off easy compared to many.

A month of paid vacation does not seem to be a reasonable 'punishment' for not only the battery, but also the falsifying a police report....unless it's at club fed.

Shelley Lubben On Abuse In The Porn Industry - (Very NSFW)

entr0py says...

I agree, assuming everyone involved consents to the upload to the interwebs. But the problem is I get the sense most amateur porn is made for the private enjoyment of the couple when they're at a good point in their relationship. Then released to the public if the guy is unscrupulous or scorn (face it, it's always the guy filming). So, you might be contributing to the public humiliation and invasion of privicy of some innocent woman.

It's hard to have an ethical wank.

EMPIRE said:

I hate mainstream, commercial porn. The only stuff that does it for me is amateur stuff. People actually enjoying themselves, and no fake grunting. The porn industry can go suck a dick (no pun intended).

assault victim calls for help. gets assaulted by cops.

assault victim calls for help. gets assaulted by cops.

peggedbea (Member Profile)

assault victim calls for help. gets assaulted by cops.

assault victim calls for help. gets assaulted by cops.

assault victim calls for help. gets assaulted by cops.

Cops Sexually Assault An Assault Victim?!?

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Zeus says...

I'm relieved. It was becoming a magnet for callous and cruel comments by those too lazy to actually research what actually happened.

They are slowly killing an innocent woman, but this clearly doesn't bother some people, who seem to derive self satisfaction from making ill founded yet damaging statements. I epxected more intelligence.

Can't see me posting another after this experience. Oh well.

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Psycho Cops Strip Search Innocent Woman

flavioribeiro says...

>> ^yonderboy:
2) If cops saw me smoking weed and then I slipped it into my pocket... guess what... they have the right to search my pockets. WITHOUT ME BEING CHARGED WITH A CRIME. If I shove that joint up my ass... guess what else they have a right to do.


I'm not qualified to discuss the legality of strip searches, since I know very little of American laws, and lately the US legislation has changed to allow a lot of invasive procedures in the interest of "national security". What I hold is the personal belief that it's absurd to strip search someone without a proper accusation. A police officer shouldn't be able to do it just because he feels like it. Your example hinges on the whole "war on drugs" issue, which I also think is very damaging from a civil liberties standpoint.

3) Did you just say that being immobilized is automatically excessive force? Can you REALLY not think of a single situation where cops would legitimately need to immobilize someone? C'mon... you can't possibly be that stupid/naive

Being immobilized without being charged with a crime is (to me) excessive force.

I think your example about weed shows we have a deeper disagreement about civil liberties. I believe that getting immobilized by the police is a REALLY BIG DEAL. A police officer shouldn't have the right to hold someone against his or her will without making a formal accusation which he would later have to follow through with legal procedures. Otherwise they can just go around intimidating people and charging them with "resisting arrest".

Psycho Cops Strip Search Innocent Woman

MarineGunrock says...

Ugh. None of you, including myself, know enough about this situation to cast any calls on whether or not this was justified (the search)
@flavioriberio: immobilizing someone is NOT excessive force. For all we know, the officers had plenty good reason to suspect that this woman had a razor blade somewhere on her body, yet was unwilling to cooperate with the police.
"Everyone playing along" Again, it might have been fully warranted. Like someone said, even the female officers seemed to think that it was perfectly justified.

Just because she called 911, she is not automatically the victim.

Do you people really think that there's no way in the world that she was indeed attacking someone with a razor blade, and then called 911 on them? It could quite possibly be that who ever attacked her told the police that she had cut them with a blade, and had the cuts to prove it, and that the arresting officer couldn't find it. Therefore, she gets taken to jail where they search her clothes for a blade and fail to find one. They ask her if she has one or not, and she replies with a "Fuck you." They are then forced to perform a strip search to find the blade.

The video seems so traumatic because she is screaming bloody murder, and for all we know, the officers had every right to be doing that strip search. Should there have been males in there? No. Should she have been left naked? No. But none of you can tell me that she didn't deserve a strip search. For all you know, she was kicking any officer that tried to approach her, and that's why they were forced to restrain her. I'll reiterate: restraining someone is NOT excessive force. If they had a knee in her lower back and one on her neck, that would have been.

@Spoco: " Sorry, but a woman being forcibly stripped while in handcuffs should be screaming bloody murder... Just not on."


No, a completely innocent woman being forcibly stripped while in handcuffs should be screaming bloody murder. We don't know that this woman is completely innocent.

@Xax: "
I'm not sure what your point is. You fault her for screaming? Would the video be less disturbing if she were not?
"

No, I don't fault her. I was merely stating that the video would have been less traumatic is she wasn't screaming.

@toast: "
Why didn't they reply to her when she asked what they were doing? No one in that room said a word.
And I think I heard one of the men snicker as he closed her door.
"

They might have already told her every reason why they were doing it. Maybe they just got sick of answering the same question 300 times.

"OF COURSE YOU WOULD SCREAM. You have no feelings."

Don't fucking tell me I have no feelings. I'm being objective. And no, I would scream IF I were indeed being treated badly. We don't know that she is.

@EDD: We don't know if it was a false arrest.

<cruise control>
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH FACTS IN THESE VIDEOS TO PRESENT A STRONG ARGUMENT FOR EITHER SIDE.

Psycho Cops Strip Search Innocent Woman

Xax says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
5) This video would have seemed a LOT less dramatic had she not been screaming bloody murder the whole time.


I'm not sure what your point is. You fault her for screaming? Would the video be less disturbing if she were not?

This sort of shit is infuriating.



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