This guy who? The guy who doesn't understand what "Liberal" means?

Not sure who you're referring to.

The Left in this country doesn't exist at the top level.

That's hard to believe with Obama in the Red House and Congress under taxocrat control since 2006.

Which is why everything that occupy accomplished isn't reported on. And yeah I know you're going to say "They didn't accomplish anything" you believe that because you don't actually know the facts of the situation. You would if their was a Left Wing bias in the media.

Well, here's your chance. List 3 things the occupoopers accomplished. Hope these achievements outweigh the chaos, drug-dealing, rapes and deaths it caused, plus the expense of keeping society safe from these trust fund barbarians and other nogoodniks












>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
The liberal bias exists enough for this guy to have noticed it in his 30 years at CBS.
Are we counting NPR and PBS? Moyers and Suzuki selling Left on the taxpayer dime?
Chomsky? No thanks. It's hard to believe a wealth redistribution socialist who protects his own assets with a trust.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
FOX reveals the rest of the media for what they are and have been from the start: propagandists for taxocrats and left-wing dogma. And that's not counting the fools in hollywood.
The whole 'Liberal is to "WHAT bias?" as Fish is to "WHAT water?"' will not be rehashed here.
Koppel and Friends failed the American people before there was even a FOX. They lost the trust (and ratings) through their own betrayal of objective journalism.

Actually it will be rehashed here. The "Liberal Bias" does not exist in any study that has been done about it. What has been found is a bias for the State, and War, and a defense of what America does regardless of consequences.
Pick up some Chomsky QM.


This guy who? The guy who doesn't understand what "Liberal" means? The Left in this country doesn't exist at the top level. Which is why everything that occupy accomplished isn't reported on. And yeah I know you're going to say "They didn't accomplish anything" you believe that because you don't actually know the facts of the situation. You would if their was a Left Wing bias in the media.

>> ^quantumushroom:

The liberal bias exists enough for this guy to have noticed it in his 30 years at CBS.
Are we counting NPR and PBS? Moyers and Suzuki selling Left on the taxpayer dime?
Chomsky? No thanks. It's hard to believe a wealth redistribution socialist who protects his own assets with a trust.


>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
FOX reveals the rest of the media for what they are and have been from the start: propagandists for taxocrats and left-wing dogma. And that's not counting the fools in hollywood.
The whole 'Liberal is to "WHAT bias?" as Fish is to "WHAT water?"' will not be rehashed here.
Koppel and Friends failed the American people before there was even a FOX. They lost the trust (and ratings) through their own betrayal of objective journalism.

Actually it will be rehashed here. The "Liberal Bias" does not exist in any study that has been done about it. What has been found is a bias for the State, and War, and a defense of what America does regardless of consequences.
Pick up some Chomsky QM.



This guy who? The guy who doesn't understand what "Liberal" means? The Left in this country doesn't exist at the top level. Which is why everything that occupy accomplished isn't reported on. And yeah I know you're going to say "They didn't accomplish anything" you believe that because you don't actually know the facts of the situation. You would if their was a Left Wing bias in the media.

The liberal bias exists enough for this guy to have noticed it in his 30 years at CBS.

Are we counting NPR and PBS? Moyers and Suzuki selling Left on the taxpayer dime?

Chomsky? No thanks. It's hard to believe a wealth redistribution socialist who protects his own assets with a trust.





>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
FOX reveals the rest of the media for what they are and have been from the start: propagandists for taxocrats and left-wing dogma. And that's not counting the fools in hollywood.
The whole 'Liberal is to "WHAT bias?" as Fish is to "WHAT water?"' will not be rehashed here.
Koppel and Friends failed the American people before there was even a FOX. They lost the trust (and ratings) through their own betrayal of objective journalism.

Actually it will be rehashed here. The "Liberal Bias" does not exist in any study that has been done about it. What has been found is a bias for the State, and War, and a defense of what America does regardless of consequences.
Pick up some Chomsky QM.

I started off with MJ and the Beach Boys at age 5. Then around 2nd grade it was Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer. Then 3rd it became Ice-T, NWA, Ice Cube. 4th grade it became Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse. 5th Grade it was Kyuss, Jesus Lizard, Melvins, Nirvana. 6th grade it was local punk bands, Lookout! Records, Minor Threat, Rancid... 7th grade I delved into the heart of Legendary DIY underground punk music. Ebullition records (Econochrist, Born against, Downcast, Spitboy, Iconoclast, Los Crudos), , Gravity Records (Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Clikatat Ikatowi), Dischord (Fugazi, Hoover, Rites of Spring). The list goes on and on. The next ten years were all about underground hardcore/punk/noise/power-violence/sludge/grind/doom.

Then I moved to San Francisco. LOL. I'm an Aquarius. AQUARIUS RECORDS!!!!! I still listen to some of that stuff from time to time. A LOT of it was way ahead of it's time. These kids these days can't hold a candle to genuine, innovative, raw DIY music.

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>> ^Yogi:

>> ^VoodooV:
twice now, Ms. Hoover has attempted to make shitty arguments to Bill whenever the topic of increased taxes comes up.
The last time she was on Real Time prior to this, she asked Bill if he was willing to give up one of his cars since he advocated higher taxes for rich people (like Bill) It's a fallacy as she is appealing to fear. Oh No! Bill will be slightly less rich if he had to pay bigger taxes.
And then again, she suggests that Bill should knowingly take advantage of tax loopholes so he doesn't have to pay any tax even though he has the ability to absorb higher taxes without significantly affecting his life.
She's kind of a shithead. (and so is Grover as is self evident by this video and many others on the sift)

Yeah they're both awful but the biggest shithead on this panel is Richard Clarke...not for what he said but for who he is.


Who is he?

>> ^VoodooV:

twice now, Ms. Hoover has attempted to make shitty arguments to Bill whenever the topic of increased taxes comes up.
The last time she was on Real Time prior to this, she asked Bill if he was willing to give up one of his cars since he advocated higher taxes for rich people (like Bill) It's a fallacy as she is appealing to fear. Oh No! Bill will be slightly less rich if he had to pay bigger taxes.
And then again, she suggests that Bill should knowingly take advantage of tax loopholes so he doesn't have to pay any tax even though he has the ability to absorb higher taxes without significantly affecting his life.
She's kind of a shithead. (and so is Grover as is self evident by this video and many others on the sift)


Yeah they're both awful but the biggest shithead on this panel is Richard Clarke...not for what he said but for who he is.

twice now, Ms. Hoover has attempted to make shitty arguments to Bill whenever the topic of increased taxes comes up.

The last time she was on Real Time prior to this, she asked Bill if he was willing to give up one of his cars since he advocated higher taxes for rich people (like Bill) It's a fallacy as she is appealing to fear. Oh No! Bill will be slightly less rich if he had to pay bigger taxes.

And then again, she suggests that Bill should knowingly take advantage of tax loopholes so he doesn't have to pay any tax even though he has the ability to absorb higher taxes without significantly affecting his life.

She's kind of a shithead. (and so is Grover as is self evident by this video and many others on the sift)

Hell the video shows how he actively cuts jobs over and over in companies and leaves them to sink or swim (usually sink) under the debt and screwed up profit margins they have to maintain that they artificially inflated. If they were sustainable, they wouldn't be selling the company off..because they'd make more siphoning off their 20% indefinitely.


And what they pay in taxes now is significantly less than they used to pay, when the nation was arguably doing it's best across all income brackets. And you see this jackwad just decimating people's lives and companies left and right by repeatedly doing this. And the defense is that they pay more taxes than you do?.....well you can't pay taxes if you're unemployed, and your tax contribution is going to be lower and lower the more money they hoover up or work to drive your wage down.

You should be wishing they paid such an astronomical rate on their taxes at the 1.5-2 million mark that they effectively earn nothing. That way there is no "profit" in them demolishing everyone else in the country to make 500k more and reinvesting and expanding is the name of the game instead of cut, horde, and bribe for favorable laws.

What this video shows is just wrong on so many levels, no matter what they claim or how the laws allow for...it's bullshit and should not be tolerated by anyone who isn't a lizard brained crank.

I love O'Reilly is arguing about this issue with a Republican strategist in Margaret Hoover. LOL...

The Boulder City police department just wants to ensure that patrons visiting Hoover Dam are sober.

I went to high school in B.C. The cops used to put a mannequin in a patrol car en route from Vegas to deter speeders. Eventually, they realized a traffic light was more effective.

You mean except some really obvious things developed originally by the government such as the Internet, dams such as TVA and the Hoover Dam, the national highway system, all the technology that came out of military projects, all the technology that came out of NASA...

I could keep going, but why bother. It's not like more would persuade you any...

>> ^bobknight33:

Corporations are not Governments. They know how to spend money. Government does not know how to do anything but waste money. Your head is still up you ass.

Oh yeah, Hoover, acting like a liberal, paved the way for FDR. You might agree that without Hoover's antics clearing a path, there would've been no New Deal.

FDR is a sacred cow of the left. You here would have a better chance of convincing shinyblurry there is no God than me convincing you FDR was clueless, and overrode the the original power-limiting intent and meaning of the Constitution.


>> ^crotchflame:

>> ^quantumushroom:
"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."


Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.
I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.

You must be new here.>> ^crotchflame:

>> ^quantumushroom:
"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."


Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.
I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.

>> ^quantumushroom:

"High tariffs and government-sponsored deflation followed by enormous taxation and unthinkable government expenditures turned a stock market stumble into a decade-long nightmare."



Jesus. Neither of those could be attributed to FDR. The tariffs were under Hoover and massive government spending under the new deal is anything but deflationary.

I mean, go ahead and say the New Deal did not work and all that vague nonsense. You would be wrong but at least it would look like a sensible statement.