Riot Grrrl power *promote the next generation of young rockers.

33:28 Racist Sexist Boy!

Guardian article
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/24/the-linda-lindas-interview-racist-sexist-boy

@gorillaman -- all good points.

Except... except... except.... we do live in a sexist society. Are we the MOST sexist society? Absolutely not.

But in the CONTEXT of a sexist society, IF the words man and boy are NOT interchangeable, then we need an understanding why it is okay for women and girl to be completely interchangeable.

The number of syllables doesn't cut it for me. Not given the CONTEXT of the sexist nature of our society.

Which gets us back to the use of "boy" for a black man.

You are too young to know this, but it was absolutely the norm to call a black man "boy". It wasn't until the men said no more, do not denigrate me like that, got mad about it, invoked Black Power and Black is Beautiful that it became not okay to call a black man a boy.

Some women got mad back in the 70s and 80s, and it changed some. It is waaaay better than it used to be.

We agree. Context is everything. You seem to have missed my acknowledgement that I personally use the word boy and girl for adults in some circumstances. However, as much as you are asking me to see your context, which I have acknowledged in general, I don't see much movement on your part to allow that maybe, just maybe, I have a valid point of view. Black and white thinking isn't the path to new understanding on anyone's part.

There is no absolute right and wrong. I am not wrong. Neither are you absolutely right, although yes, there is a generational thing. There was no grrrl power in the 70s and 80s. That word has been reclaimed to a certain extent.

You mentioned popular music and how prevalent the word "girl" is. So are the words bitches, hos, and a whole slew of words you would never use to describe your girlfriend or your mother.

I guess we have come to an end to this experiment. Although I do encourage you to keep this experiment on the back burner of your mind. And continue to ask yourself -- why is okay to call an adult woman a girl with great regularity but we don't do that to adult men.

I guarantee you it isn't the presence of an extra syllable. Sometimes that is true. But for the pervasiveness of it, that just rationally, scientifically and socially doesn't cover the situation.

Thanks for playing! It has been way fun!

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Not a bad cover - but Kurt is spinning in his grave. I've always wondered about the title - what does "Smells Like Teen Spirit" mean? I suspect that Miley Cyrus smells like teen spirit.

Edit: via Wikipedia:

Cobain came up with the song's title when his friend Kathleen Hanna, at the time the lead singer of the Riot Grrrl punk band Bikini Kill, spray painted "Kurt Smells Like Teen Spirit" on his wall. Since they had been discussing anarchism, punk rock, and similar topics, Cobain interpreted the slogan as having a revolutionary meaning. What Hanna actually meant, however, was that Cobain smelled like the deodorant Teen Spirit, which his then-girlfriend Tobi Vail wore.

ooooh, Sensitive Grrrl music.

Thanks for the promote stingray!

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*promote

>> ^Farhad2000:
Like the song.
But like... nrrd grrls like metrosexual emo fags? Proof @ 1:18


Indeed, these guys came off as gay to me. Still I like the expressions of wtf when confronted with the nerd world.

QI! @Kommie & @thinker247, thanks for your insights (and my apologies to Thinker about having led you onto this repulsive scientific path ;-)). But, then for the ladies/grrrls sifters out there: how would you feel about a hot, steamy vid with George Clooney or Stephen Colbert covered in some other girl's liptstick? Would you fantasise about that being your mark or would you feel jealous?

And what about gay porn (no, I do not mean guys loving girl-on-girl action), is that different?

Gosh, I'm getting so totally absorbed in this discussion, that I haven't done my toe nails yet (and that with the weekend coming up).