On the money Flowers!

Tags for this video have been changed from 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers, Doodling in Math' to 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers, Doodling in Math, vi hart' - edited by messenger

Tags for this video have been changed from 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers' to 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers, vi hart' - edited by messenger

Tags for this video have been changed from 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers' to 'vihart, math, doodle, spiral, fibonacci, plants, flowers, vi hart' - edited by messenger

I'm sure that a child handing a flower to a soldier was completely spontaneous and just happen to be caught on tape. I'll watch it but I have low expectations.

You know, initially, I thought this was a good vid. Now that I've learned more about the content, I can see how unfair it is. Quite misleading. I think I have to retract my "good on you" thoughts. I'm allowed to be wrong, I think.

Elevatorgate... This topic of misogyny in atheism... This entire subject still confuses the shit out of me. How it exploded into a huge deal, whether or not it was an exaggeration... God, it still has me feeling conflicted and confused to this day. The original video that sparked the whole thing was:
http://youtu.be/uKHwduG1Frk?t=4m35s

And rewatching it - I remember why it rubbed me the wrong way. Yeah, there were a ton of reasons why the dude shouldn't have done what he did. Yes, it was creepy. Yes, poor timing. Very poor. But it's the "sexualizing me creeps me out" comment that gets me. It wasn't the the fact that she was stuck on an elevator with some creepy dude who had no tact that creeped her out. It was the sexualization. That always rubbed me wrong - but I am pretty sure it's not what she meant.

If a guy likes her and asks for coffee because he's attracted to her, that's not a big deal. But that's not what happened - that leaves out the important bits. Everything else surrounding the coffee request was a big deal - and yeah, she has the right to say "Guys, don't corner girls you don't know in the elevator to ask them out or back to your hotel room. Not a smooth move and it's really scary. Seriously." But that's not what she said creeped her out... Pretty sure that's what she meant, though. Or something close to it. I very much doubt she meant "Guys, never try to flirt with me. Sexualizing me in any way creeps me out."

Words are a bitch and people read the wrong things into them. That term "sexualized" is probably the pivotal piece of the entire "controversy." Which is a shame, since the whole experience is a valuable lesson to socially awkward, dumbass dudes: don't do the shit that guy did, it's not good.

So from this flowered all sorts of controversy... That I'm still feeling awfully confused and conflicted about. I still feel like things got blown out of proportion in areas and I DO feel like I couldn't step into these communities and speak my mind, because I'm afraid I'd just get ostracized or attacked. Which is a shame. And it's probably those feelings which fuel any frustration or anger that I have because of the whole topic.

I'm also feeling conflicted, because I still wonder if I don't get it. Maybe there's some sort of serious problem I'm not seeing and I'm actually a misogynist and I have no idea. Hope not.

I hate em, too! Some flowers make me uncomfortable!

She is still holding together http://publicity.vanguardrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Susanna-Hoffs-Flower-jpg.jpg

That is pretty smart. If I have someone on ignore and they have me on ignore then I can not send them a message.

Pretty decent idea as I could not send someone a message after ten minutes of trying. But I could link the link and message anyone else I know I am not ignored by.


I wanted to playfully send :





to L****** the flower power asshat.

That is a pretty good idea to bar people if negative = negative

Your video, STUNNING Cotton Candy (Fairy Floss) flower making, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

Every time I see you
Oh I try to hide away
But when we meet it seems I can`t let go
Every time you leave the room
It feels I`m fading like a flower

tell me why...

Also, that whole thing at the end about if you explain things too much it become transparent and invisible is complete bull. Just because you can understand something completely doesn't make it invisible or less notable. Just because you know what a flower is made of, how it grows and how it pollinates, doesn't make it any less beautiful.

>> ^Fusionaut:

He's just trying to get people interested in the election! Sheesh!>> ^TheSluiceGate:
Are you fucking kidding me. How about a poll for "Ugliest Gold Star Videosifter"?



Nah dude-Trying to get folks head out of their own assess regarding the election by calling attention to the haggditude of certain women of dubious distinction. The current president's wife did not make the list because there are only eight cretin-slots available and the maybe president-elect's wife is of the Stepford persuasion, if ya know what I mean....Ladybird planted flowers on state highways to deal with her repressed bullshit, I could give a fiddler's fistfuck about any so-called election...This is about ugly wenches married to influential and possibly indiscriminate assholes.

Words are far removed from reality. You don't give me enough for me to know how much of my thinking you understand. You have to take all that I wrote as a whole to get somewhat close to what I am thinking. Picking out a word or sentence that I wrote tells me that you have no interest in understanding me but I don't know that for sure because you aren't giving me anything to go on to let me understand what you are thinking.

I am saying that if quantum theory is correct then evolution has to be correct as well.

"The big bang proves humans" seems to be a wholly different kind of statement that means one event in time proves another event in time.

I am saying that quantum physics and evolution are in essence describing the same process, the same truth, the same idea. People use slightly different words in these two areas but in essence: the interactions shape the whole and the whole shapes the interactions. Nothing is fixed, everything is constantly moving and changing so you cannot simply create a flower by itself nor an atom by itself. Atoms exist (in the sense we think of existence) because of quantum effects interacting and the flower exists because of all the interactions at its scales of time and size.

Calling part of what I wrote about fractals a separate argument seems to indicate exactly what the problem is. It isn't about agreeing or disagreeing or separate arguments. It is about using abstractions (words, sentences) to dance around a big idea in order to communicate that big idea. No one abstraction can describe the whole. at best we can circle around the edges and make the connections which will be a different process for you than for me.

Also I find it weird to be compared to intelligent design. I have never read anything nor seen any videos about intelligent design where their evidence supported their conclusions. It seems that they always present really good reasons why, for example, an eye has to have evolved over time from simple light-sensitive cells to current more complex structures but they present those reasons as evidence that evolution didn't happen but the eye was created whole as we know it now. Same thing with the flagellum thing. Everything they say about those structures tells me they have to have evolved from simpler structures in an ever evolving environment but the conclusion that they say they support is the opposite. In other words, I hope you don't think of me as dumb.

Philosophically speaking I am open to the idea that to an eternal mind the time from the big bang to today is like a flash. What to us would be a thought of an elephant that appears and disappears in a flash in our minds might be similar to the universe as we know it in the mind of the All. Even so, quantum physics and evolution is how that thought process would appear to us.
>> ^lampishthing:

As I said, quantum mechanics provides the mechanism for evolution.
I only object to your use of "proof". I will whole-heartedly agree with "Quantum physics supports evolution", I will not agree with "Quantum physics proves evolution." The argument about the beauty of the fractal nature of interactions progressing scale is akin to an argument used for intelligent design. Argument from beauty
>> ^swedishfriend:
>> ^lampishthing:
Um, no. Quantum mechanics is necessary for mechanisms involved in, say, genetics but to say that quantum physics proves evolution is like saying that the big bang proves humans.>> ^swedishfriend:
Quantum physics also proves evolution.


Quantum effects show that all is probability unless there is interaction. This leads at larger scales to the process we call evolution. No one living cell or organism can be created and exist by itself but rather has to evolve from simpler matter along with the other simpler matter in is environment. Everything relies on everything else would be a basic way of thinking about it. Everything grows out of everything. Experiments of quantum effects at larger scales have shown that what we call reality comes into being by interaction with all else that exists. In the same way living organisms cannot be created out of the blue without all other organisms and matter around it but rather has to grow and be shaped through time and interactions with the nature around it.
If you can hold large enough ideas and interactions in your mind I think you will see that evidence for quantum effects supports the idea of evolution and evidence of evolution supports the idea of quantum effects.
Nature is one thing, the functions of life and evolution fractally rise up out of atomic and quantum effects. If you truly understand fractals, evolution, and quantum effects it is easy to understand them as a whole.

>> ^artician:

I've never encountered this before, and though I've heard of the book, I'd never read it. I just found all 10 parts of the film on youtube and watched it right after viewing this summary. great story, great performance. I loved the themes. Thanks for posting!


I've know about the book for a long time and I loved the movie Charly.
I just read Flowers for Algernon for the first time and I think every high school student should read it.

Glad you liked it!