Thanks for the sift. I always wondered if we had a trojan asteroid. I wonder if it would be easier to visit this than others--probably not because of the delta V needed.

[edit] Nope. It moves too far out of the ecliptic.

Far out! That's incredible. Though I must admit to feeling a tad uncomfortable when he showed them the matches.

far out man!

Hey that's far out!

[devilsadvocate]The damage that was done by this guy is in the form of the kids who are being depicted in a video that features explicit language without their expressed permission. That, and the school being made to look bad by apparently having allowed an explicit song sung to kids[/devilsadvocte]

Anyone who think this kid deserves to spend any time in jail at all, let alone 20 years, is so far out of touch with reality that they should be institutionalized. The only reason these parents are making a big stink out of it is a combination of their own desire for fame and hopes they might be able to get a reward out of it in the form of a class action lawsuit. The DA handling this case clearly has absolutely no concept of Justice, only the idea that a case like this can technically designate a sexual abuse charge. He should be removed from his position, because he is a disgrace not only to his district but the entire country.

Gotta hand it to him for rocking well into his fat, balding years. Those kids must have thought he was some far out old man - who could still outrock most of them.

>> ^Payback:

What I really find telling is, the driver of the loader has NO IDEA how to drive it. One of the FIRST things you learn is how to crab-walk it sideways.
Bucket down, front wheels up
twist, move rear wheels forward
bucket up, front wheels down
twist the other way, wheels back
Repeat.


Thank you... Same with the mention of chalks. Same with the mention of using the bucket. Same with the comment that lets people know that THESE are usually the things you call in to pull/winch someone stuck. Same with the realization that everything happening in the video = tax payer money being used (paying both state workers-maybe three-to screw this up; although, that may be a utilities truck "trying to pull him out").

It completely confuses me how they haven't taught basic maneuvering on how to get these things unstuck or get things unstuck--I can almost guarantee that most farmers (whether they've been in the snow or not; at that weight mud might be worse than snow) that use one regularly know what to do.

I also must give @jmd an honorable mention for saying what I was thinking the whole time. If you see something like that get on the phone to the local PD and get out there and get the information (trust me; that driver may be hard up for cash, but that is no excuse to "possibly" cause mayhem with their work/payments for months). Also, the lady across the street is yelling just fine what the hell is his problem? He's basically muttering the whole time until his last sentence (then decides to either go out there and get dressed or goes back to sleep). Maybe that street has great acoustics.

As for the firing bit. Look at the complete negligence shown in this video. To me it shows: no common sense, can't ask for help (as said way up top--I'm sure they'll handle him gingerly for most likely totaling a vehicle--or he could have asked for help), gets a second car involved, HUGE waste of tax-payers money from this one stupid event (I'll wager that this little event will cost anywhere from 10k low -if the SUV frame is pulled to far out of alignment- and 30k high--most likely this is about 16k'ish, overall) and one more if he didn't call the cops himself. If you need the job, do IT RIGHT. You can't EVER use that as an excuse to not do the job given to you; especially so when it concerns near pre-meditated negligence all caught on camera. The fact that they did do the initial, possibly no damage, bumper hit should have been the stopping point. When they decided to keep going and said "fuck it", that is a fire-able offense. On the spot .

Last part that I find funny. That thing is heavy as hell. I'm not too sure what those guys thought they'd accomplish by trying to "pull" it out. Winching it out is at the least what you would do. Instead, what really frees the heavy-machinery is it using that SUV as friction for the tires. All they did was pull it sideways into it.


This made me think TSA employees are acting well-reasoned in bad-conditions...

(Longer than I wanted what I wanted it to be, oh well. BTW, this did go national atleast on CNN and the Weather Channel. ....So many things you can do to get yourself in that situation: salt/sand/gravel mixtures in front & back, shovel, metal/rubber tire wedges, @Payback's comment, @ridesallyridenc comment, @BoneRemake's comment, @Porksandwich's comment, it goes, on, and on, and on, and on.... )

Imagine yourself a lawyer sitting in a quiet courtroom like you've done hundreds of times before, working through all the boring paperwork for hours at a time etc. Suddenly a man faceplants from a balcony not 50 feet from where you are. Some would just sit there nonplussed because something that far out of your expectations takes time to register.

Far out in the unchartered backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the galaxy lies a small, insignificant yellow sun. Orbiting this, at a distance of roughly 98 million miles is a planet whose ape-descendent lifeforms are so primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

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@BansheeX I think anyone who promotes the idea of a return to a gold standard has to realize that deflation is just as bad, if not worse than inflation.

What we're seeing right now in the economy is the effect of mere disinflation (i.e. a drop in the rate of inflation), and the result is lots of unemployment, and very low investment in actual economic activity because it's far too attractive to hoard cash (or more accurately financial assets so safe they're as good as cash).

Part of how you break out of that cycle is to create an expectation of inflation, and you have no hope of that under a gold standard, because you can't increase the money supply. In fact, you're guaranteed to see a steady rate of deflation whenever your population grows, or your economy tries to expand and that will put a drag on growth.

I don't think there's much of a case to be made that the Fed is unconstitutional (and what case there is rests on the word "coin" carrying a lot more weight than the phrase "regulate the value thereof" which follows it). Even if some SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional, you'd see an amendment to the Constitution passed before you can say the phrase "the Senator from Goldman Sachs". Like Cenk said, our government is nothing but quick and efficient when it comes to serving the interests of the rich and powerful.

Which ultimately is what I think Cenk said that carries the most weight -- the problem isn't that the Fed exists and has the power to do things like this, it's that the actions it takes are quick and decisive when banks and investors are in trouble, but regular people not so much.

In this case, the Fed bought a lot of toxic assets at face value. I like this a lot more than Congress authorizing treasury to do the same thing, because unlike Treasury and Congress, the Fed can just print the money rather than borrow it. We don't have to pay interest on those dollars to anyone, and we don't need to collect them back with taxes, either. We might see inflation, but right now inflation would be good for the economy.

What the Fed could have done instead is print up money and give it to people to pay off their mortgages. In effect it could still do this by just writing off the toxic assets it holds, and not foreclosing on the mortgages it has on its balance sheet. It may still do this, and I suspect it will have to for some percentage of them. I also expect right-wing people to bitch about "moral hazard" and lazy parasites mooching off the producers in society if/when it happens.

Ultimately, the only downside to any of what the Fed is doing is that it might lead to inflation. But so far nothing it's done has created even the slightest increase in the year-over-year inflation rate, which is already well below the 2% target. Furthermore, all market indicators are predicting inflation of essentially 0% as far out as 7 years, even though the scale of the Fed's actions are public knowledge.

he doesn't look THAT far out. not letting my wife see this, she won't go in the water again. we live in san diego, haven't been up to san onofre in some years though.

FAR OUT, Hillage here!

777

Not that far out I guess. To my knowledge, most rigs that get in trouble seem to go down. Well that is trouble enough that it makes news, I am sure little stuff happens all the time. But catastrophic failure seems like that of a plane, the forces at play tear and burn it with such ferocity these is little you can do to stop it. Most of those places are not only dealing in crude, but in gases, and once that starts burning out of control I don't know if it is even possible to suppress.

That white and grey goalie isn't bad, but he needs to stop going so far out of position.

>> ^handmethekeysyou:
Doesn't push the cop so much as he pushes the cop's hand away when the cop goes for his neck. Cop already had baton in hand.>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.




True, but baton in hand is different than baton in face, i.e use. Unused... it is not an effective weapon. I am not saying the push deserved anything and reading into that would be counter-productive. I think this cop was far out of line before the push started.