I believe he had major facial reconstructive surgery after the horrible accident mentioned above. >> ^sme4r:

Man hes had some work done. Facelift much?

That glitch wasn't digital....It was the shape-shifting capabilities of one of many races of alien life amoung us...

Oh and, cheesy creepy facial reconstruction crapola....reads on the psyche like a wanted poster in a post office. MSNBC ya suck.

You are quite welcome to interject yourself in the situation with rachel, since besides me and her, you are the most involved in that. I don't think you should do it with the other situation, since you both have no business doing it, and because you cannot have all the facts - even if I and all the rest of the people who were there retell it to the best of our knowledge, you won't have all the facts of that.

I blame it mostly on that incident and bea's lies (which they are) since it clearly culminated whatever had been brewing. What was brewing in the mean time between me and rae, which I was completely oblivious of, is both my own and rae's fault. I was just doing what I had always done for the last fucking year with her, which she seemed to have fun with until after texas (or some time before that, when she got all silent). We are both to blame for that part, me with my incessant messages (don't friends message each other much!?) and her with condoning it until she changed her mind and hated it.

"With all the things you admitted to doing"
1 thing - groping ivy. That's all I've admitted to about what happened in Texas and that is the extent of inappropriateness there were. I've apologized to ivy for it and, for me anyway, that part is over. I expect it to be a done deal for her as well. Nothing else happened while I was there. As I've explained, quite a few times now, the situation we were in did make it less of a big deal - it wasn't completely out of the blue, it wasn't malicious. It was just stupid. To say that "Truth is, you were lucky to escape Texas without any facial reconstruction being needed afterwards." is just bullshit. It's not like I fucking raped her. And again, you were not there, so you're not getting the full picture.

I don't want to drag you into this either, and I'm sorry that you've been dragged into it. But Rasch is not a good friend, he's a complete ass who can't keep his mouth shut and his nose out of other people's business. I feel sorry for you guys if you do consider him a friend.

I'm not just trying to "save face", I'm trying to get rasch to admit that he was in the wrong - maybe knock just a little bit of sense into the fucker. He was ENTIRELY in the wrong in that thread and I'm calling on his bullshit. If it had been rae herself that had posted that, or you perhaps, then I would have been even more baffled, but understanding - if she had posted that in a PM to me, then the entire thing would have gone quite a lot better for all involved.

From Rachel, I had expected at least some form of explanation for why she didn't want to talk. It came out of the blue for me, and since I did consider her a friend, it shocked me when she wrote the "want to get out of the bullshit" PM. I considered her a friend and I thought she did the same with me, so I think she at least owed me that - but as I've said to you privately, what I think I deserve and what others think I deserve are not necessarily the same, so if she didn't feel she owed me an explanation that was that. This was the sole purpose of my messages after she wrote that, because I'm not antagonistic and hate having people not like me, so I tried my damnedest to get her to talk to me, so I could at least walk away knowing what had happened.

I think rachel and I had a good talk on messenger after that whole thing blew up, but I still feel bad the way it turned out. Both for you, for rachel, for cari and for myself. I do not feel sorry for peggedbea and I certainly do not feel sorry for rasch.

In fact, rasch should go the way of the do-do and die out. He deserves all the scorn he gets. He is not "a man of his convictions" he's a witch-hunter, he didn't back you all up, he put himself in the fucking driver's seat and tried to run me over. He should be ashamed of himself far more than I should be ashamed of what I've ever done. When he leaves this site, and hopefully this earth, I will dance a merry jig.

Take care, Jake.

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Would it be my place to put myself between "other people" when I DO know what was going on? I think so. Doesn't a "shorthanded dismissal" count as "telling you properly"? What more did you need? A five-page essay on why she wanted to stop talking to you? It's hilarious that you blame it all on one incident (accusing peggedbea of being a liar), when it was a culimination of things over time.

You know, with all the things you admitted to doing, which includes groping a married woman, I'd think you would be more humble about it. Truth is, you were lucky to escape Texas without any facial reconstruction being needed afterwards.

Watch what you say. I don't like being brought into this bullshit, but I hate to see a good friend like rasch being placed on the stakes - and when you drag up AC's name, I will inevitably follow. I've told you privately why I had problems with how you handled your "relationship" with Rachel, and I'd rather you not carry it on for the sole purpose of saving face.

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If you are referring to the way me and alien_concept talked to each other, that is none of your business. You don't understand the "relationship" we had - I only ever reciprocated all that talk, if she didn't want it anymore, she could have told me properly, instead of the shorthanded dismissal thing she sent me. It is not your place to put yourself between other people when you don't know what's going on; it's the same that happened with obsidianfire. Maybe you should burn out too, because your presence isn't welcome or appreciated anymore.

Would it be my place to put myself between "other people" when I DO know what was going on? I think so. Doesn't a "shorthanded dismissal" count as "telling you properly"? What more did you need? A five-page essay on why she wanted to stop talking to you? It's hilarious that you blame it all on one incident (accusing peggedbea of being a liar), when it was a culimination of things over time.

You know, with all the things you admitted to doing, which includes groping a married woman, I'd think you would be more humble about it. Truth is, you were lucky to escape Texas without any facial reconstruction being needed afterwards.

Watch what you say. I don't like being brought into this bullshit, but I hate to see a good friend like rasch being placed on the stakes - and when you drag up AC's name, I will inevitably follow. I've told you privately why I had problems with how you handled your "relationship" with Rachel, and I'd rather you not carry it on for the sole purpose of saving face.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
If you are referring to the way me and alien_concept talked to each other, that is none of your business. You don't understand the "relationship" we had - I only ever reciprocated all that talk, if she didn't want it anymore, she could have told me properly, instead of the shorthanded dismissal thing she sent me. It is not your place to put yourself between other people when you don't know what's going on; it's the same that happened with obsidianfire. Maybe you should burn out too, because your presence isn't welcome or appreciated anymore.

Next stop on the crazy train - facial reconstruction. Pick your own mathematical formula!

"Approximately 73% of all drummers will undergo facial reconstruction surgery due to fractured drumstick piercing accidents."

"60 years? wtf? okay, beating up officers isn´t the nicest thing, but SIXTY years? I am so so so so very happy NOT to live there. One dumb thing and you´re out forever."

Maybe it's long, maybe it isn't, but the officer in the video required massive facial reconstruction. Sorry, this isn't the movies. It doesn't take much to break a face.