I wonder, would all these people be saying the same thing if this guy was a cop "defending" himself?

>> ^Lann:

How do you know she's from the suburbs? Oh yeah, all white people are from there.
Maybe she didn't call the cops because she didn't have a phone. Also, if she stood in between them "or something" she might have got beaten with a pipe as well. Yeah, her screaming was annoying but it was at least a reaction opposed to just standing around.
As for the two girls, what they did was very wrong but they didn't deserve that. I can see grabbing the pipe and chasing them away (or hitting them if they attacked anyway)...but beating them while they are down and no longer a threat, that's fucked up. I don't care about their gender, it's messed up.
>> ^Darkhand:
This video makes me hate fucking white people.
STOOOOOOOOOP STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!
CALL THE FUCKING COPS!!!
How about you just shut the fuck up, go back to the surburbs, and knit a fucking sock.
I don't know what happened to provoke these guys, but when not ONE but TWO people jump over a counter, run after the guy you're fair game. I'm not saying he should have kept whacking them with a pipe while they were down but jesus lady shut up screaming STOP isn't going to do anything. Why don't YOU call the fucking cops or stand in between them or something JUST STOP SCREAMING! I would've hit her with the pipe too just for good measure.
VIOLENCE HAPPENS and if all you can do is SCREAM you're SCREWED.

Its the same way all over, it's even worse in America.

That story on CNN where the old man was jumped on by a gang of black guys near an area of town known for gangs, the man was a white elderly man in his 60's coming out of a gas station and everyone watched, black women laughed calling him "old cracker" and noone came to help, and Andersoon Cooper said the gas station clerk didn't even call 911.

The man laid there for 30 minutes until a passerby called 911 as they drove past.


it's crap like that, that makes me wish we had more vigilantes in the world to beat people like that.

Sometimes I like to see people get beat with pipes.

In reply to this comment by entr0py:
I'm just curious, why did anyone upvote this? I think you've failed in your sifting duties.

When I watched this news meltdown video, I immediately thought of this comment stream where the phrase "dumb bitch" was bandied about over and over again.

I know you won't think they are related, but I do. I believe strongly in the power of language. I think it shapes the world.

Right after I watched the news vid, I saw your little list which brought up the dumb bitch thing again.

I probably shouldn't have sent the link to you. Waste of your time. Sorry.

In reply to this comment by budzos:
Your point?

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http://videosift.com/video/Someone-left-the-news-directors-mic-on

In reply to this comment by budzos:
Things I learned from this thread:

1. Women can't hurt you so don't bother defending yourself
2. Women get one free slap at your face while you're at work
3. If someone jumps the counter after slapping you and is advancing with their friend in an unmistakably hostile manner.. pfft don't worry it's just two women you're not being assaulted
4. Using a weapon to even the odds or ward off an attack is actually offense and not self-defense.
5. Always let the attacker keep their upper hand, otherwise you are now the one committing assault
6. All violent altercations are immediately settled when any party's gluteus maximus touches a horizontal ground plane.. so stop hitting and start passing out hugs
7. Any use of the word bitch makes you a horrible misogynist
8. Screaming your head off and contributing even more stress and clamor to a tense and violent situation is commendable
9. If you react violently to being attacked, well you're just a big ol' egomaniac!

Again, if I had it my way this type of video wouldn't be on the 'Sift.

Ignoring the legalities: If you back all the way up to the wall, you've got nowhere to go. Grabbing a weapon and then meeting your attacker as they advance gives you more ground to work with. It's perfectly valid as self-defense. I'm sure some fuck-nut lawyer sees otherwise. But in the real world where people use their instincts and knowledge, you never want to be fighting with your back up against anything.

>> ^ctrlaltbleach:

For everyone saying this was self defense I think you may be confused on what self defense is perhaps you have been watching to many movies. The guy is swinging a weapon this is called offense he is on the attack and is in an offensive position. When he walked away distancing himself from his attackers only then was he practicing self defense. If he was scared about his safety why the hell did he come back? If had held the pipe up and blocked the blows from the ladies that would be considered self defense but as soon as he swung back at them he became the aggressor having a greater strategical advantage. Im not saying the ladies were not wrong in attacking him but that guy is a piece of shit.
Honestly I dont give a shit if anyone has a problem with what I just said "Im not arguing that with you!"

http://videosift.com/video/Someone-left-the-news-directors-mic-on

In reply to this comment by budzos:
Things I learned from this thread:

1. Women can't hurt you so don't bother defending yourself
2. Women get one free slap at your face while you're at work
3. If someone jumps the counter after slapping you and is advancing with their friend in an unmistakably hostile manner.. pfft don't worry it's just two women you're not being assaulted
4. Using a weapon to even the odds or ward off an attack is actually offense and not self-defense.
5. Always let the attacker keep their upper hand, otherwise you are now the one committing assault
6. All violent altercations are immediately settled when any party's gluteus maximus touches a horizontal ground plane.. so stop hitting and start passing out hugs
7. Any use of the word bitch makes you a horrible misogynist
8. Screaming your head off and contributing even more stress and clamor to a tense and violent situation is commendable
9. If you react violently to being attacked, well you're just a big ol' egomaniac!

Again, if I had it my way this type of video wouldn't be on the 'Sift.

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>> ^bareboards2:

@lucky760, did you put this video on that particular playlist because of the video or because of the comment stream?


I haven't read the comments yet, but the fact that you considered the possibility means you can consider it added for both.

No more wire hangers!!!!!!
>> ^budzos:

Also, that is not much of a pipe... it's a thin copper pipe and you can see it bending as he hits them.

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>> ^budzos:
You think a manslaughter conviction should keep you from working at McDonald's? Why? You realize manslaughter is by definition involuntary? Even if it was murder in the first degree, what does that matter when it comes to making burgers?
>> ^artful_codger:
wow, 35 comments and i can't see anyone asking the question "Why, McDonalds, do you hire people convicted of Manslaughter!?". I wonder if Paedophiles prepare the happy meals.



abso-fucking-lutely, the events shown in the video speak for themselves, he's too volatile to be working anywhere near civilised human beings and Micky D's should know better. Manslaughter vs Murder means very little these days, it's just a plea-bargain to secure a quick conviction and avoid expensive protracted trials. He shot and killed his friend and the bullet also hit an 8 year old child.

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