That's funny. I just finished quoting Orwell, too! Ha! Orwell warned of absolute power corrupting absolutely, and the power in which we give bigger government is the power we lose as individuals. There is no such thing as social liberty; only individual liberty. I see what you mean now when you say "concentrated power". You're thinking more in terms of the blue bloods and the corporate elite being given power and influence in government policy, but what I'm saying is removing that ability by having less power in the Federal government.

Do you know what it would take to sue a corporation today in this country? A lot. It's damn near impossible without creating a class action. This used to NOT be true, but the government in its infinite wisdom decided to regulate corporations, thus edging out smaller business and making punishment for larger corps less effectual. These days, the government has instated a pollution fine which is in essence a "pollution tax" for the deep pocketed corporations that can easily afford it. So, if a corp pollutes or destroys a communities water supply or air or property, we've almost entirely removed the individual's ability to sue that corporation. The government, however, has the right to tax them... I mean, "fine" them.

If we allow the courts to do their job, large corporations (which shouldn't have the same rights as humans, that's just absurd, but that's what happens when big money gets near Washington) would be properly punished locally by the communities in which they tried to operate. This is something that requires a longer conversation, but that's essentially the gist of it. Believe me, I'm against concentrated power.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Likewise.

This is an important point that is seldom made. With your disgust for Orwellian doublespeak and concentrated power, I'm surprised you disagree. I think limited government is a fair argument, but some of your allies intend to replace so called government tyranny with private tyranny. As far as I can tell, you are not anarcho-capatalist. Are you?



In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I've never seen you so political on the Sift. I like it.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
'Small government' is such an arbitrary and meaningless term. It's pure corporate propaganda, and it's disturbing that traditional media has been able to put this frame into our brains and mouths. .

Notice that the biggest pork, corruption and waste comes from the same people who hawk this 'small government' canard - the Bush administration. They don't seem to mind giving away billions upon billions of our tax dollars to their own corporate cronies, but when we need more teachers or a better healthcare system, they bitch and moan about 'big government', and we buy into it.

Have you ever heard these people proclaim the need for 'small corporations'? Never, because 'large' corporate tyranny is the whole point of making government small; Taking power from the people and giving it to nameless, faceless entities with no accountability, oversight or responsibility to the public.

Our citizen elected government isn't an Orange Mocha Frapachino, so enough with the small, medium and large bullshit. The correct size of government should be whatever allows it to function at its most efficient and most effective. No more. No less. Logic is your friend.

Likewise.

This is an important point that is seldom made. With your disgust for Orwellian doublespeak and concentrated power, I'm surprised you disagree. I think limited government is a fair argument, but some of your allies intend to replace so called government tyranny with private tyranny. As far as I can tell, you are not anarcho-capatalist. Are you?



In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I've never seen you so political on the Sift. I like it.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
'Small government' is such an arbitrary and meaningless term. It's pure corporate propaganda, and it's disturbing that traditional media has been able to put this frame into our brains and mouths. .

Notice that the biggest pork, corruption and waste comes from the same people who hawk this 'small government' canard - the Bush administration. They don't seem to mind giving away billions upon billions of our tax dollars to their own corporate cronies, but when we need more teachers or a better healthcare system, they bitch and moan about 'big government', and we buy into it.

Have you ever heard these people proclaim the need for 'small corporations'? Never, because 'large' corporate tyranny is the whole point of making government small; Taking power from the people and giving it to nameless, faceless entities with no accountability, oversight or responsibility to the public.

Our citizen elected government isn't an Orange Mocha Frapachino, so enough with the small, medium and large bullshit. The correct size of government should be whatever allows it to function at its most efficient and most effective. No more. No less. Logic is your friend.

whats funny is the people in this film are like i dont like socialsum ore comunisum. when in realty what thay are looking for is a more socialist soucity and less of a capatalist one. becuse in realty u need a balence of things. funny to see how sutch an old propaganda mecheain still has its ghosts in people.