Its from Denis Villeneuve. He does not make dumb comic-booky all action, no plot non-sense.

This is the rare "blockbuster" movie I can't wait to see. Really wish that it's a bona fide epic , not some dumb comic-booky all action, no plot non-sense.

@enoch, you must have your head in your own rectum if you think that Oakland is anywhere close to a libertarian's wet dream. You clearly have no interest in having a real discussion about any of the principles I've outlined for you, and I have little problem ignoring your posts.

If anything, Oakland is more like a statist's dream, right now. The inevitable result of regulations and criminalization of drugs. Drug dealers, pimps, bookies, and such are, in fact, "cronies" of the governmental system due to the fact that their jobs are overpaid by the illegality of these services.

If Oakland decriminalizes all of the above mentioned "services" that these guys provide, then I would grant that the city is, indeed, moving in a libertarian direction. Otherwise, only psychos and low-lifes tend to take those illegal jobs given that they are subject to the precariousness of the whims of the legislators

I don't mind them doing any of the above activities, actually. But shooting guns in the air could be a violation of someone else's property, depending on where the bullets fall or on whom/what. And obviously the state "protectors" are doing nothing about any of these things.

Like I said, let private security take over and these random shootings would be curtailed..

Make Oakland business-friendly, and you will see it become much less violent. A libertarian's "dream" does not look like an over-regulated Oakland.

Private enterprise/private property does not put up with random shooting into the air in the middle of a city. Tell me: Why are there are no gang shootings inside the Google campus? Or at Disneyland?

Why do these things tend to happen only in "public" spaces? Tell me.

That cop heckled by the gangs had zero incentive to risk his life for no gain. Businesses, on the other hand, have the incentive to keep gangs off of their property. And they will find those willing and able (for the right price) to deal with the gangsters in ways the government cronies simply can/will not..

I don't think it's a toss up, I said that I don't know how close it is and that the polls I've seen had them neck and neck - and you quoted me saying that it looks like Obama is going to win.

>> ^bmacs27:

Of course. What isn't. However it has the advantage of being aggregated across all of the data, and thus increasing sample size. It's true, if there is a consistent bias in the sampling techniques of all polling agencies that happens to consistently favor Obama, it might be off a little. However, it would have to be wildly off (and extremely anomalous given that the historical accuracy of polling is also factored in) for that to happen. But yes, it could happen. However, I'd be happy to bet that it won't, especially that most odds makers have him as about a 3-1 favorite. The narrowest moneyline I ever saw was right after the first debate when Obama commanded a -165. That's still better than a 3-2 favoring. Since you seem to think it's a tossup, you must be happy to give me even odds. Whaddya say... $10,000 bet?
>> ^Quboid:
Interesting @bmacs27, but only as reliable as its data. @moodonia, that's the bookie I was referring to, I guess that was nonsense, although I see their odds are very short on Obama. Bookies aren't fools, they'll have looked at the swing states so that's good to see.

Of course. What isn't. However it has the advantage of being aggregated across all of the data, and thus increasing sample size. It's true, if there is a consistent bias in the sampling techniques of all polling agencies that happens to consistently favor Obama, it might be off a little. However, it would have to be wildly off (and extremely anomalous given that the historical accuracy of polling is also factored in) for that to happen. But yes, it could happen. However, I'd be happy to bet that it won't, especially that most odds makers have him as about a 3-1 favorite. The narrowest moneyline I ever saw was right after the first debate when Obama commanded a -165. That's still better than a 3-2 favoring. Since you seem to think it's a tossup, you must be happy to give me even odds. Whaddya say... $10,000 bet?

>> ^Quboid:

Interesting @bmacs27, but only as reliable as its data. @moodonia, that's the bookie I was referring to, I guess that was nonsense, although I see their odds are very short on Obama. Bookies aren't fools, they'll have looked at the swing states so that's good to see.

Interesting @bmacs27, but only as reliable as its data. @moodonia, that's the bookie I was referring to, I guess that was nonsense, although I see their odds are very short on Obama. Bookies aren't fools, they'll have looked at the swing states so that's good to see.

According to Monte Carlo simulation of aggregated poll results it's over.>> ^Quboid:

Is that not close? I know US margins are tiny, IIRC Obama won in '08 with about 54% of the vote and that was described as nearly a landslide which sounds to me like a narrow margin. What about the margins of error in these polls, they're not going to be especially accurate. Also, what about electoral college votes, rather than the popular vote: i.e. what about the swing states, how are they polling?
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Quboid:
>> ^VoodooV:
they are not neck and neck. That's shitty media pretending it's close so that they can increase their ratings.

The polls I've seen (which aren't many, admittedly) have them pretty even with Romney being ahead in some. Apparently a local (UK) bookie has paid out on Obama winning, which although done for publicity is an expensive gimmick if they're wrong so I don't know.
Maybe it's because of the FUBAR way US politics work, only about a third of people's votes matter - what are the polls like in Florida, Ohio and such like?

The polls that are most accurate in this stuff have Obama at 50% and Romney at 47%. I'm sorry but this isn't that close, Obama has it.

CBS News is reporting that the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power declared Obama the winner which is bull since paddypower are still taking bets on it.

Is that not close? I know US margins are tiny, IIRC Obama won in '08 with about 54% of the vote and that was described as nearly a landslide which sounds to me like a narrow margin. What about the margins of error in these polls, they're not going to be especially accurate. Also, what about electoral college votes, rather than the popular vote: i.e. what about the swing states, how are they polling?

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Quboid:
>> ^VoodooV:
they are not neck and neck. That's shitty media pretending it's close so that they can increase their ratings.

The polls I've seen (which aren't many, admittedly) have them pretty even with Romney being ahead in some. Apparently a local (UK) bookie has paid out on Obama winning, which although done for publicity is an expensive gimmick if they're wrong so I don't know.
Maybe it's because of the FUBAR way US politics work, only about a third of people's votes matter - what are the polls like in Florida, Ohio and such like?

The polls that are most accurate in this stuff have Obama at 50% and Romney at 47%. I'm sorry but this isn't that close, Obama has it.

>> ^Quboid:

>> ^VoodooV:
they are not neck and neck. That's shitty media pretending it's close so that they can increase their ratings.

The polls I've seen (which aren't many, admittedly) have them pretty even with Romney being ahead in some. Apparently a local (UK) bookie has paid out on Obama winning, which although done for publicity is an expensive gimmick if they're wrong so I don't know.
Maybe it's because of the FUBAR way US politics work, only about a third of people's votes matter - what are the polls like in Florida, Ohio and such like?


The polls that are most accurate in this stuff have Obama at 50% and Romney at 47%. I'm sorry but this isn't that close, Obama has it.

>> ^VoodooV:

they are not neck and neck. That's shitty media pretending it's close so that they can increase their ratings.


The polls I've seen (which aren't many, admittedly) have them pretty even with Romney being ahead in some. Apparently a local (UK) bookie has paid out on Obama winning, which although done for publicity is an expensive gimmick if they're wrong so I don't know.

Maybe it's because of the FUBAR way US politics work, only about a third of people's votes matter - what are the polls like in Florida, Ohio and such like?

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You forget that ordinary citizens have money in those banks that are used to lend to the greeks among others. So all of Europe should fall because greeks overextend themselves?>> ^artful_codger:

^ to a point yes, reckless borrowers should be punished for their greed, but the core of the problem / resentment is that reckless lenders are not being punished - they (german banks) lent billions of euros of loans to greek banks and now they want their money back !?
Sorry German banks, you made a bad bet, don't go looking for your money back from the Bookie when your horse falls.

^ to a point yes, reckless borrowers should be punished for their greed, but the core of the problem / resentment is that reckless lenders are not being punished - they (german banks) lent billions of euros of loans to greek banks and now they want their money back !?

Sorry German banks, you made a bad bet, don't go looking for your money back from the Bookie when your horse falls.

King Hippo just made some Asian bookie a ton of cash.