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Police in Barcelona have attacked protesters that have been camped out since May 15 in the city's Plaza Catalunya. The protesters originally were trying to apply pressure to the public to not vote in last weekend's local Spanish elections. Those elections resulted in sharp losses for the country's Socialist Party government.

Protesters have remained in squares across Spain since the election, demanding government reforms and renewed attention to the country's unemployment crisis.

The forceful move against the protesters today in Barcelona was staged to clear the square out ahead of FC Barcelona's Champions League final match against Manchester United tomorrow evening. But to many, it may just appear the beginning of a government crackdown on the country's protesters.

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@Pprt Well, that's an easy one - sympathy. If they said "we're going there to provide weapons" or something similar, the boat would have been leveled and no one would be taking their side - or far fewer at least. It is conspicuous that we got all that video from the one boat, when it was an entire flotilla (I think people have been playing too much Mass Effect, why not just call it a fleet?). I'm am also suspicious of the video black-out on the Israeli side, of course, they would do far better by playing with open cards, but then so would the US and that's just not gonna happen.

@theali Illegal? What law covers that? "International law" only covers the people who have agreed to it or those who wish to make friends with those who follow it. If I make a "law" that you can't smoke in my house and you still do, I can throw you out - but if I make a law that no smoking can be done anywhere, no one is going to follow it - and they shouldn't, unless they want to be on good terms with me.

Attacking in international waters was indeed a bad move and it's already cost Israel bucket loads of goodwill, although technically the Mediterranean is not "International Waters" (only the Barcelona Convention covers it and that's only for environmental issues.), since the borders are right up to each other - I don't know who has jurisdiction where the attack happened, though.

An illegal act of war - well, depending on who's laws and really, the war was there already. They've been fighting since Israel was made and before.

My point is still, the people on the flotilla should, and likely did, see it coming and they went ahead anyway. If they want to run into the wall, the wall does not carry the sole responsibility when they get hurt.

Anyway, great big mess. It's not going to end until people stop thinking the land is holy - as always, religion is to blame.

Blimey, now we know what happened to Ronaldo.

The big-toothed one.

Really not sure if this worth an upvote. Obviously Brazilian tv is stuck in the 1970s.

Those videos of animals with human heads were part of a viral campaign for Sonar festival in Barcelona a couple years back, man were they creepy, especially when seen out of context

6. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
5. Star Trek
4. The Wrestler
3. In The Loop
2. Moon
1. Avatar

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Star Trek was a fun reboot - but best of the year? Here are the movies I enjoyed the most in 2009.

6. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
5. Star Trek
4. Knowing
3. Inglorious Basterds
2. Moon
1. Avatar

I hate conspiracies but something really awful is going on here.
Massachusetts is the first to pass this disgraceful law, others will follow.
The pharma co's have been given legal immunity (msn).
http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com - go to this flu map and zoom in on the Ukraine.
They have a population of 46 million. 2 million have the flu.
At the start of November half a million had the flu (bloomberg), look at the countries around it, low low levels. It may be spreading North West into Belarus and Poland.
The fact that this has not been reported in the media should set alarm bells ringing in everyone's head.
It just stinks of something really awful.

Black Lung - Plague?

If you have an hour watch the video by Sister Teresa Forcades

TERESE FORCADES I VILA
Degree in Medicine from the University of Barcalona.
Specialty in Internal Medicine at the New York State University.
PHD in Public Health from the University of Barcelona.
Degree in Theology from Harvard University.
Benedictine nun at the monastery of Saint Benet in Montserrat, Barcelona.

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Just thought i'd leave this here in case you didn't read it on the page - it might explain something as to why people get in some way snippy when people american people talk about "europe".

Please ignore the insult at the end, it wasn't aimed at you, i include it because it's in the original, i directed it to the people who mass-upvoted a comment comparing the diversity of "europe" to the diversity of the US.

I hope you understand what i mean here, it's really hard to explain how apathetic we are about being part of "europe" and how we feel completely unconnected. I can't think of a parallel for you, it's just a feeling you get when you live here for a while. And a feeling of "not being connected to the countries you are supposed to be connected to" is a really unique emotion

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^conan:
backpacking for two weeks? through europe? i guess he's another of those ignorants who think of europe as one single country. it's a CONTINENT! what do you expect to see of a whole continent in two weeks? even if he managed to see 4 countries that's nothing. awkward attitude.

Why do you have to be a dick about it? If I can easily make a road trip through the U.S. and see all kinds of sights, why couldn't I backpack through Europe in two weeks? What you just said is the equivalent of saying "he must be another of those ignorants that thinks of the U.S. as one single country and not 50 states." WTF does it matter if he said he's going backpacking through Europe? I if go backpacking and visit Paris, London,
Berlin and Barcelona, why am I not allowed to say "Europe"?


So many right things and so many wrong things in 1 paragraph. You're right, his pomposity was bullshit, but so is your comparison of america to europe.

Although you can OF COURSE visit a great section of europe in 2 weeks, i think what many people don't understand is that a lot of people over here have never even consider themselves european. I can barely call on an equivalent for you guys because there's nothing similar for you that i can imagine.

We never really refer to europe exept in terms of the european parliament etc. So for most people, if you were having a conversation and said "yeah i went to europe, i went to spain and portugal" they'd chuckle - not because they're being pompous or anything, but because most of us see it as such a vague term for such an aggregate mass of countries - and we don't feel bound to each other in any way. We'd only say we'd been to "europe" if we'd visited like 90% of the total countries. And even then we'd only say something like "i've been to most countries in europe"

I'm having a very hard to explaining that although we have a collection of countries that are associated and the european union and all that jive, to the average european civilian, we could not be further divided from our other european neighbors.

I as a british citizen feel more associated, connected, whatever with the USA than i do with "europe"

/facepalms all round

I think next chance i see i'm going to randomly lash out at someone and make a vaguely pro-american statement and see how many votes i get

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^conan:
backpacking for two weeks? through europe? i guess he's another of those ignorants who think of europe as one single country. it's a CONTINENT! what do you expect to see of a whole continent in two weeks? even if he managed to see 4 countries that's nothing. awkward attitude.

Why do you have to be a dick about it? If I can easily make a road trip through the U.S. and see all kinds of sights, why couldn't I backpack through Europe in two weeks? What you just said is the equivalent of saying "he must be another of those ignorants that thinks of the U.S. as one single country and not 50 states." WTF does it matter if he said he's going backpacking through Europe? I if go backpacking and visit Paris, London,
Berlin and Barcelona, why am I not allowed to say "Europe"?


So many right things and so many wrong things in 1 paragraph. You're right, his pomposity was bullshit, but so is your comparison of america to europe.

Although you can OF COURSE visit a great section of europe in 2 weeks, i think what many people don't understand is that a lot of people over here have never even consider themselves european. I can barely call on an equivalent for you guys because there's nothing similar for you that i can imagine.

We never really refer to europe exept in terms of the european parliament etc. So for most people, if you were having a conversation and said "yeah i went to europe, i went to spain and portugal" they'd chuckle - not because they're being pompous or anything, but because most of us see it as such a vague term for such an aggregate mass of countries - and we don't feel bound to each other in any way. We'd only say we'd been to "europe" if we'd visited like 90% of the total countries.

I'm having a very hard to explaining that although we have a collection of countries that are associated and the european union and all that jive, to the average european civilian, we could not be further divided from our other european neighbors.

I as a british citizen feel more associated, connected, whatever with the USA than i do with "europe"

/facepalms all round

I think next chance i see i'm going to randomly lash out at someone and make a vaguely pro-american statement and see how many votes i get

>> ^conan:
backpacking for two weeks? through europe? i guess he's another of those ignorants who think of europe as one single country. it's a CONTINENT! what do you expect to see of a whole continent in two weeks? even if he managed to see 4 countries that's nothing. awkward attitude.


Why do you have to be a dick about it? If I can easily make a road trip through the U.S. and see all kinds of sights, why couldn't I backpack through Europe in two weeks? What you just said is the equivalent of saying "he must be another of those ignorants that thinks of the U.S. as one single country and not 50 states." WTF does it matter if he said he's going backpacking through Europe? I if go backpacking and visit Paris, London,
Berlin and Barcelona, why am I not allowed to say "Europe"?

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Shitty defence by Lell, Ottl and Breno.

Well, at least the Champions League game versus Barcelona FC on Wednesday should be interesting. Either Bayern gets blown to pieces or "la bestia negra" strikes back in style.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but... Set the video to 6:15 (at this point in the video we are on Av. R Argentina) and pull up Google Maps in another tab. Enter "228 Avinguda de la República Argentina, Barcelona, Spain," enter the street view, and make sure you are facing in the Northwest direction. Notice the hills on the horizon. A second or two later in the video, it looks like the tram begins to turn left and then it announced "Calle Graywinckel." Click ahead a few clicks in Google Maps and you can make the same turn on to "Carrer de Craywinckel." Google walk yourself west to the end of Craywinckel where you come to the typical European 3 road intersection. Compare this with the intersection we are approaching at 6:50. ??????