>> ^burdturgler:
So during that long time lurking you hadn't contributed anything at all here. You watched videos, sifted nothing, voted on nothing, made no comments .. etc. In other words, contributed absolutely nothing.

Yes, but I didn't detract from the site either. And that's the crux of my argument.

But don't take the high ground of being a "contributor" to the site.

I was arguing more from my high ground of never calling you all retards and telling you that your site will fail.

>> ^imstellar28:
I think a troll is someone who fails to stay on topic, actually.

I think a troll is someone who calls the admins of a site retards and then takes advantage of their site by abusing the mainpage of their Sifttalk. But let's face it, that's a discussion you're trying to avoid.

[Edit] - Well, I've said my piece. That's enough for now. Talkin bout my feelings and shit like a real man.

You realize all my votes were lost on 3/11 right? I think a troll is someone who fails to stay on topic, actually. As far as cross-posting on the main page, everyone cross-posts on the main page. There just isn't a high enough volume of sift-talk posts for it to be a problem.

<embed src="http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/unsuccessful_troll.jpg">

>> ^Edeot:
^Yes, maybe. I'll back down if that's what the community thinks. But hell, it isn't hard to hit a damn vote button. I've done it 380 times.
In any case, a troll shouldn't be aloud to cross-post to the main talk page like this.

I don't want to turn this into some continuation of a confrontation between you and I. I've apologized for that and I'm glad you're here.

A large part of my reaching that conclusion of why someone so new could be so well versed on sift protocols was the explanation that you were a long time lurker. So during that long time lurking you hadn't contributed anything at all here. You watched videos, sifted nothing, voted on nothing, made no comments .. etc. In other words, contributed absolutely nothing.

Now you are involved and it's great. Lots of good sifts, interesting comments etc. But that doesn't make you now able to judge people who have been commenting on this site for a very long time, usually in the face of harsh opposition. You can disagree with their posts and you're welcome to do so. But don't take the high ground of being a "contributor" to the site.

Maybe after you contribute here for a year or two you may find yourself making a "troll" post here or there.


>> ^Edeot:
^Yes, maybe. I'll back down if that's what the community thinks. But hell, it isn't hard to hit a damn vote button. I've done it 380 times.
In any case, a troll shouldn't be aloud to cross-post to the main talk page like this.

People contribute in many ways. It isn't always measured in votes or sifts.
In any event .. it's not spam. It's an opinion.


>> ^Edeot:
I'm sorry, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see why you guys put up with this crap.
It's spam. There's no reason this should be cross-posted to the main page.
Of course, you could always put up with it if the poster is a contributing member, but he's not.
He doesn't <a rel="nofollow" href="http://worldaffairs.videosift.com/member/imstellar28/published</a>. And when he does, he later kills them. All of them (check his comments).
He barely even fucking votes on anything. 18 votes cast so far.
And now he's proven himself to be a troll.
Fuck'em. Discard this shit.

I don't believe intellectual property law is compatible with liberty, so I am against the RIAA, MPAA, patents, copyrights, etc.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
For once, I agree with you. Although I'm surprised you are not on the side of the intellectual property right holders in this case.

http://worldaffairs.videosift.com/talk/Obama-Backs-RIAA-with-150-000-Per-Track-Punishment

>> ^oinkinstein:
>> ^blankfist:
I'd trade Kucinich for Obama any day.

as would I, in a heartbeat
did you guys hear about those RIAA lawyers he appointed to his justice dept. It's sick, i loved the man when he was campaigning, but now I'm starting to second guess. We'll see what happens

^Agreed. She is having some fun mocking the disingenuous arguments of the RIAA.

>> ^imstellar28:
Theres no cure for stupid in real life, but there is on the internet
qualm -> on ignore
rougy -> on ignore


No loss.

If any of the Econ 101 text book companies stumble upon your "original" posts, they'll make the RIAA look like girl scouts demanding their payment for all of the S'Mores you bought and refused to pay for.

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>> ^blankfist:
I'd trade Kucinich for Obama any day.


as would I, in a heartbeat

did you guys hear about those RIAA lawyers he appointed to his justice dept. It's sick, i loved the man when he was campaigning, but now I'm starting to second guess. We'll see what happens

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Maybe not the CIA. Maybe the MPAA/RIAA. Just as evil.

>> ^Kerotan:
From the end trailer I can postulate that Yahtzee has sold out faster that pele and his impotence adds.
I seriously wonder if he calls those people friends.
(on a side note, not that I'm against him selling out, good for him)
In addition co hosting something really kills the idea that he is a jaded sociapath of some description.


He already started and finished writing a PC Gamer column... not news.

>> ^PuffyJacket45:
Am I the only one who dislikes the horribly loud hard-rock intro/outro sequence of ZPR? Despise might be more apt. I have to be quick on the volume controls while watching these. Perhaps I'll do a narrated slideshow about it...


Blame the mini-Hitlers at the RIAA

>> ^RedSky:
>> ^Deano:
>> ^RedSky:
Sure, he reviews games no one actually cares about or are weeks old, is oblivious to multiplayer and generally seems to get it wrong some of the time but hell if I can get a couple of laughs from a 5 minute video a week I'm not complaining.


He's reviewed Assassin's Creed, Halo 3 in the past and Fallout 3, Fable 2 and Left 4 Dead recently. Those are big games that alot of people care about.
Also he's not attempting to get anything "right", he's expressing an opinion.

He reviews some big name games, but he also reviews plenty that no one cares about because they already know they're shit just to take the piss. When he does review well received games on the other hand he takes his bloody time, (L4D - 3 weeks late, F3 - 3 weeks late, AC - 3 weeks late ... you get the idea) by which point you'd expect a lot of gamers to have either finished them or be well on their way through them, making 'reviewing' them a wee bit pointless.
By get it wrong, I'm obviously referring to my opinion. I would preface all my comments with 'in my opinion', but that would be incredibly obnoxious not to mention redundant because it should already be readily apparent.


aw come on, you think everyone buys games within 2 weeks of release?

The trouble with those exclusive contracts that prohibit employers from hiring nonunion employees is that the if the employees become unsatisfied with the union they can't quit it to form a different union without losing their jobs. It's a monopoly. So the union can be as corrupt and inefficient as it wants and the employees in the industry can't divest from the union without moving to a different industry where they have no experience.

Nationalize healthcare by having the government directly hire doctors and build its own hospitals, which will care for anyone who presents, no questions asked. No secretaries for billing paperwork, no insurance filing overhead, etc. Then cease all government subsidies and regulations of private sector health care (let it sink or swim on the free market). Most of the insurance industry would go under, as it should, since they're useless middlemen like the RIAA. The amount of man-hours required to deal with the insurance paperwork usually exceeds the amount of man-hours required for the actual operation or treatment.

I can say for years that I too detested iTunes for the DRM. But after a while, and given my patience with computing (which led me down the path of working in IT) I kinda gave in, bought a second hand iPod Nano, and have been happy since.

But to answering your questions:

1. I consider the old experiment of putting a frog in boiling water vs cold then slowing boiling them to death. The idea is the frog gets use to latter and won't jump out even when it's near death.

The RIAA, on the other hand, reacted like the former when presented with Napster. It existed, almost literally, under their noses. They had no "warming up" period to the idea of digitally available music. Because of the initial knee-jerk reaction they whole of the association is still reeling from the notion that anyone could rip them off in a few clicks. The slowness is due to the hard coding of the idea, in executive heads, that the control of the physical media the music is listened to on is paramount. Given that you can rip tracks from a CD or convert files from one format to another and from one device to another, this isn't possible. Draconian is my usual word for mentality because of this. They missed the boat for the digital age and are slowly dying at an industry because of it. A very slow death, but a death nonetheless.

2. All that above being said, your options right now are limited.

• Buy CDs, use software to legally rip them into mp3 or wav (windows media player can even do the former if you'd like automatically). Then store the CDs away for safe keeping. I've been doing this off and on for years myself and have quite a collection of MP3 files to show for it.
  
• Find the limited websites out there that sell DRM free music. I won't list any personally because I find their selection not worth buying from.
  
• Become a digital miscreant and convert files out of their DRM state. Out here in the states that violates the DMCA (Section 1201 if you are wondering. It signing into law is the only action I have yet to forgiven Bill Clinton for, and I even forgive him for the whole lying under oath about blowjobs). I cannot really get you in the right direction on this other than to tell you to google for something... gah, I can't remember... the HYMM of our fathers PROJECT makes for an interesting REQUIEM.

When they hired that New-Agey 'life coach' to help them I just about vomited. Then they didn't know how to fire him. No wonder that St. Elsewhere album was such a piece of shit.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
The same! We watched in awe. My husband was sickened. He LOVED them. I laughed my ass off. What babies they turned out to be.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Are you talking about this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387412/

If so, I saw only parts of it. That was all I could take. I used to really like those guys, until they became money-hungry chickenshits.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Please tell me you saw the VH1 special doc. done with them a few years back.


In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Now they attend seminars and symposia put on by the Trial Lawyers of America and the RIAA.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Yeah? I heard it was at one of these that Metallica first met each other.


In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
As a lawyer for Metallica I demand that this video be destroyed, the children subpoenaed, the dragon slain, and all who viewed this be given $10,000 fines. We take Visa, Mastercard, and American Express. Sorry, no Discover.