My first new car was a 2000 VW Beetle. There were two punchbug stories that I always like to recall.

The first was on Main St here in town. Traffic was just getting rolling from a red light so I was only doing like 5-10mph. There were some thugs sitting on the stairs in front of one of the stores to my right. One of them punches the other in the arm. The punchee then proceeds to jump up and shove the puncher into the wall. I couldn't really hear him, but I'm pretty sure I lipread "Yo, what the fuck, nigga!?" I didn't get to see how that played out but I got the impression he wasn't familiar with the game.

The other one was down the street from my job. I was returning to work at the end of lunch and there were two little kids riding bikes on the sidewalk, heading the same direction as me; a boy and girl. The boy was smaller and looked particularly shaky on his bike. As I passed them I looked in the mirror just in time to see the boy punch the girl who tipped over almost immediately. The boy, not being very stable to begin with, lost control of his bike, drove off the curb, and wiped out in the road. I like to picture the two of them going home to mommy and trying to explain why they're both scraped up, bruised and crying, and mommy trying to understand wtf they're saying.

Hey man, not for nothing but, let's let the hotforwords Ruskie work on the etymology for us....(got an in with her as of now), since all the pole-polishers and nub-punchers on this site seem to want to spread their own personal form of cheer on the subject, not to mention the public masturbation sans therapy.....Dagmarrrr, don't let the site's users tell you what you already know, drop a nut and define the rules yerselfish......

Ohhh and by the by, to whomever it may be that has one opinion or the other as to whether some breasts or some penis' have any allure for one monkey or the other and wish to offer THEIR definition of what porn is or is not...again, go fuck yourselves, make a viddy, and push that shit on your own street corner..

and stop all the cursin' while yer at it...Why not let Jesus give you some pointers regarding your potty mouths, eh?

Matthew 15:11: "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

Ah, thanks. I couldn't find it probably because the other clip didn't separate the cock from the puncher.

*dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/Steven-Seagal-is-COCKPUNCHER

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Ah, so this is were the idea for "Cock Puncher" came from...shame on Steven Seagal.

On the show they also try other approaches, but I think this was the most promising. Maybe with different shoes or socks or just random chance this puncher would have removed the socks. It removes the shoes, if they clung to the socks a bit better they would come off.

Anybody know legally what would happen to both these guys - the puncher vs the biter? Couldn't the biter claim self defense since the puncher started the assault? (And that's with us only hearing the puncher's side of things.)

So, for those of us with a shortened attention span thanks to beverages of all tastes and colours, the point she basically made is: "Up yours, donut puncher!"

agreed. this fight isn't indicative of the level of skill possessed by the best MMA fighters today. Neither Frye nor Takayama would stand more than a puncher's chance against today's best heavyweights. That aside, the aplomb with which these two throw restraint to the wind has without a doubt made for a legendary fight.

Did you know, Enzoblue, there's a term amongst fighters in MMA for somebody who is hoping to win by some quick lucky break rather than any superiority of technical or physical ability? It's called taking a puncher's chance.

And yes, that comes straight from boxing. In boxing, sometimes there are lucky hits, and sometimes no, you can't overcome them. Because every so often even a high level fighter will look the wrong way for a split second or bob when he should weave and just by chance, just from pure random chance, the can that he is supposed to be destroying takes a massive swing and gets the flash KO. And the champ will hit the mat, and he won't get up. Will and spirit and whatever else you want to say has no part in it, the man is unconscious.

So when you're talking about MMA, understand that fighters often consider standup striking to be a far riskier prospect, in that there is a higher chance that an inferior opponent will catch a lucky punch KO than a lucky sub.

As for this: "That's not fighting the way anyone wants, we want epic battles decided by brute force and technique and spirit." I have already addressed the fact that submission fighting is just as much a measure of technique, spirit, and athleticism as other aspects of the MMA game. And what exactly is "fighting the way anyone wants"? Do you think MMA fights are supposed to look the way people imagine they should, or more to the point, the way you imagine they should? They aren't, that's what Tony Jaa flicks are for. If you want to watch good fights the way they happen realistically between real experts, then go to an MMA match.

One of my coaches quoted after somebody commented about what he believed was a lucky win, "Luck is the intersection between opportunity and preparation." Sometimes inferior opponents catch lucky hits and lucky subs. That's the sport. The good guy doesn't always win. There is always the uncontrollable variable of luck, but the good fighters train so every other variable, be it strength, endurance, speed, power, whatever, is under their control.

In all honesty, I'm just repeating the things I said in my above post, but it's not clicking for you, I think because you don't have the experience or knowledge to dig what I'm saying. If one day you look deeper into MMA or even better take a crack at training it, you will be in a better position to judge. But until you do, and until you are, understand that I believe you are demeaning the sport by making ignorant assertions about what styles of fighting are "cheesy" or cheap, and what truly requires strength of heart.

P.S. As for groin strikes, if they were allowed, the sport would in all likelihood not be reduced to groin snipers. As Matt Thornton would say, adding a single strike does not affect the delivery systems that form the base for good fighters. Submissions, on the other hand, are not single attacks, they are a range of attacks, and thus are part of that base. It's the same as training for a self-defense type of situation: learn the gameplan, develop a base, then just add dirt.

I think she deseved it. She's saying, "We used to smoke marijuana together, did you know that...?" before the THC comment.

That's obviously the puncher's daughter or granddaughter. You just don't do that.

(I love how the first one says, "This woman is utter trash."