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@criticalthud
Yeah, I've been accused of that, but I blame that on the "arguing on the internet" aspect of things, rather than my actual mindset. For instance, as much as I talk up Medical Science, I still don't trust doctors, and in the last 10 years, have only visited to A) get a Physical Examination required by a job, B) get a prescription for a PT, C) Get innoculated for one of the bird/swine flu, as I had been sick for a week after spending a weekend at a "Gamer Convention" (PAX), where there were many confirmed cases.

But, while I don't trust doctors, I actively campaign against "Alternative Medicine", as I've seen many people hurt by it. I've seen one person poison themselves after getting food poisoning, because "like cures like", and I've had one friend commit suicide after they were convinced that the anti-psychotic medicine they were taking wasn't "natural", and quit it.

Whenever I think of alternative medicine practitioners and their criticism of Proper Medicine, I have one quote that sticks in my head, courtesy of The Big Lebowski:
"You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an asshole"

Sure, Medical Science can be improved. But you can't improve it by removing the science. You improve it by removing the politics. Remove the kickbacks from big pharma. Remove the groveling and begging for research funds. Remove the Actual Politics of Insurance and Medicare and Medicaid and VA Benefits. Remove the Actual Politics of the 'War on Drugs".

Those are the problems in our current medical community. But rather than attempting to solve the actual problems that we all agree on, most naturopaths are just treating the symptoms... working on the edges of society, and contributing to the distrust of the individual doctors, rather than the overhaul of the entire system.

And there are certainly many types of naturopaths. Of those that I've met (my wife spent three years in a "Traditional Western Herbalism" school, so I've met quite a few), most have problems differentiating between an idea and a fact. An unsettling amount believed that herbalism is effective because the ancient aliens that brought us to earth also brought us a dramatic and intelligent plant-system which was created to diagnose and treat all of our illnesses.

They believe that through meditation, they are able to connect to this awareness, and this awareness is what will tell them what to give their patients.


It's not the individuals I have a problem with, it's their poor education that I have a problem with. Some NPs can overcome the disadvantage of their environment that de-values scientific method and fact-gathering. Many MDs can overcome the disadvantage of years of de-valuing their own intuition.

But acknowledging the similarities between the two ignores the actual harm that is caused by alternative medicine. Alternative medicine shares the same risks as Proper Medicine, with the same chances of mis-treatment.... but it removes any chance of surgery or active treatment to cure issues. It removes the huge base of shared understanding, and replaces it with a very small base of folklore that has been accumulated through "give the patient this plant, if they don't die, it must have cured them".

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Because pythons are wreaking havoc on the native ecosystem of the Everglades.
Succinct official explanation here:
http://www.nps.gov/ever/naturescience/burmesepythonsintro.htm

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NP.

hehe, np df anyways,

*discard

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Amen. <3 In reply to this comment by shagen454:
NP, I love you so much. If I get another vote it is worth it. I understand that this shit aint tea for pretty much anyone. And thank you. DMT angels looking out.
In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
So glad you did that! I spent my points just before, not knowing I'd need them.
In reply to this comment by shagen454:
shamefully *promote

NP, I love you so much. If I get another vote it is worth it. I understand that this shit aint tea for pretty much anyone. And thank you. DMT angels looking out.
In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
So glad you did that! I spent my points just before, not knowing I'd need them.
In reply to this comment by shagen454:
shamefully *promote

NP. Haven't been through all of the playlist yet, but already I've seen a lot of great material I wouldn't have seen otherwise.
In reply to this comment by wormwood:
Thanks for all the help on this one. Hope you enjoyed it!

In reply to this comment by messenger:
If you want to skip through the videos more easily, here's the YouTube playlist link:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsNB4peY6C6K-E3TRMtaK7Znjm_Y2yOlF



Just don't forget to come back here and upvote!

*debunked
*controversy
*religion
*philosophy
*music
*promote
*length=2:15:05 (of the whole playlist, not just the first video)

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slight typo in the title there bro. Et not Est :

I had a great English teacher who taught these poems excellently. I always found "Disabled" especially haunting and sad.

Thanks for the typo check! I am a sis not a bro by the way ; What I find the saddest thing is Wilfred Owen's demise, what horrible timing! Although it seemed he didn't really want to live through the guilt anyway, but so sad this life of war and killing was thrust upon him as so many others. Makes me sick!

np sis

Np now you've had your 15 minute break, get back out there and sift soldier. Cute puppy vids wont sift themselves.

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*promote

Why thank you kind man!