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Damien Hirst - Diamond Embedded Skull

Dita Von Teese New Orleans Burlesque StripTease Performance

eff says...

i'm having a hard time making the causal connection between porn and what sound like malicious, unsolicited sex acts. it seems like an impossible to prove or even research theory...

from my perspective, rapists or molesters seek some sort of need-fulfillment that goes beyond what can easily be provided via imagination (in the form of pornographic fantasies). at least in the porn i've ever viewed, i'm not 'treated' to seemingly vicious sex acts. most of the time it strikes me as unrealistic sex with the exaggerated 'throes of passion' and needless wacky positioning. at any rate, i'm inclined to believe that people who regularly watch porn don't go outside afterwards looking for someone to abuse and mimic the recently-viewed fantasies. in fact, i think suggesting that is just absurd.

.. the whole, 'columbine massacre was caused by video games' fallacy .. but applied to porn. i think hunter s thompson hit on this in a great tongue-in-cheek one-liner: "KNOW YOUR DOPEFIEND... his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim."

on a separate note, i think it's also interesting and appropriate that the same genre (burlesque dance) can elicit ranging responses. that's precisely why it is art, in the sense that modern art can often be provocative. some will say these dances empower the woman. it's her tease, it's her show, she is in control; there is no expectation of nudity like a strip club (meat market), and it would be unfair to consider the two together. on the flip side, some will say this is a degradation of her being: reduction to a 'sex object'. i mean, i hate to think of myself being reduced to one particular aspect of my personality, but this is precisely what happens when i go to work. they only care that i write code.

well, she *is* at work after all...

Sachiko Kodama: When I Met This Material- AMAZING

Dynamic "painting" by artist San Base

westy says...

are films and computer games not dynamic images ? this guy has just created an image that merely changes the color and is more in the ganra of BS modern art where u can simply clame something is amazing and so long as your bs delivery is good then everyone loves it. don't get me wrong i love allot of modern and abstract art and i might Evan like this image however to value it above other art ore value it in itself other than on an aesthetic level you would have to know the motivations behind the image and the artists intentions.

Neatorama, Interested in Distracting YOU!!!! (Sift Talk Post)

lisacat (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Hi Lisa,

I know what you mean about how the real thing sometimes doesn't stack up to its reputation/image. I saw your reply in the Bladerunner-Opening thread. Are you sure it's Tricky's Aftermath? I listened to a sample of it on Amazon, and it's not the song I remember.

In reply to your comment:
Yes, that's it, Kelly. (http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?object_id=80997) I saw it in London when I was on a college trip in the late '70s. It was in the big "Dada and Surrealist Reviewed" show at the Hayward Gallery along with Duchamps urinal, 'natch! It's like when you see celebrities in person and they seem really small and norma l It's kind of ratty looking. You can see where the skin and the glue used has yellowed and dried...hey, it happens to all of us right? Haven't been to the new, improved MoMA yet, I'm more apt to be outside on the street selling my own art, but it's free on Fridays from 4-8pm so there's no excuses!

I love your avatar, and pomegranates, and am intrigued by what eden wrote. I need to look that up!

-Lisa

In reply to your comment:
Hi Lisa,

I was trying to remember where I saw your avatar pic before. I just found it in an old art book. Is it Meret Oppenheim's 'Object' at The Museum of Modern Art, NY? Is it still at the museum? Is it a photo, or an actual object? (haven't been there yet..)
Kelly

persephone (Member Profile)

lisacat says...

Yes, that's it, Kelly. (http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?object_id=80997) I saw it in London when I was on a college trip in the late '70s. It was in the big "Dada and Surrealist Reviewed" show at the Hayward Gallery along with Duchamps urinal, 'natch! It's like when you see celebrities in person and they seem really small and norma l It's kind of ratty looking. You can see where the skin and the glue used has yellowed and dried...hey, it happens to all of us right? Haven't been to the new, improved MoMA yet, I'm more apt to be outside on the street selling my own art, but it's free on Fridays from 4-8pm so there's no excuses!

I love your avatar, and pomegranates, and am intrigued by what eden wrote. I need to look that up!

-Lisa

In reply to your comment:
Hi Lisa,

I was trying to remember where I saw your avatar pic before. I just found it in an old art book. Is it Meret Oppenheim's 'Object' at The Museum of Modern Art, NY? Is it still at the museum? Is it a photo, or an actual object? (haven't been there yet..)
Kelly

lisacat (Member Profile)

persephone says...

Hi Lisa,

I was trying to remember where I saw your avatar pic before. I just found it in an old art book. Is it Meret Oppenheim's 'Object' at The Museum of Modern Art, NY? Is it still at the museum? Is it a photo, or an actual object? (haven't been there yet..)
Kelly

SFMOMA Exhibition: Phil Collins

Captain Beefheart - Ice Cream for Crow (HIgh Resolution)

choggie says...

Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band; directed by Don Van Vliet (with much uncredited assistance from producer Ken Schreiber), cinematography by Daniel Pearl (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre); Don Van Vliet (vocals, harp), Gary Lucas (guitar), Jeff Tepper (guitar), Rick Snyder (bass), Cliff Martinez (drums); filmed on location in the High Mojave Desert near Lancaster, California; clip rejected by MTV USA as "too weird" upon release, now in the Permanent Film and Video Collection of the Museum of Modern Art, NYC; track taken from the 1982 Virgin album "Ice Cream for Crow"

Puzzle

Janet Cardiff: Virtual Church Choir - 40 Part Motet (0:30)

rickegee says...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601697.html

From the WaPO:

Somewhere around the middle of the 16th century, the Tudor composer Thomas Tallis wrote his famous "Spem in Alium," in which 40 singers' voices spin out variations on an initial sacred theme. It is regarded as one of the most soul-stirring pieces of music ever written. It gets even better in "40 Part Motet," a riff on Tallis's work by sound artist Janet Cardiff. She completed it in 2001 and it's now on display in the reinstalled contemporary galleries at the Museum of Modern Art.

The premise is simple. Cardiff got the "gentlemen and boys" of an English cathedral choir to perform the Tallis composition. She recorded each voice with a separate microphone onto a separate track. At MoMA, Cardiff plays back all 40 channels through 40 speakers, arrayed at ear height on the periphery of a spacious room.






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