My major problem with it is that the government/NSA claimed it disrupted terror plots because of it's surveillance. Am sorry but I call bullshit on that. Terror groups are aware of this kind of activity and wouldn't go planning anything. Human intelligence is still the best way of tackling this.

From my perspective this is just J. Edgar Hoover communist witch hunt excuses to basically keep taps on everyone Brave New World style.

Did he just call J. Edgar Hoover a, "monstrous snail on steroids?"

Hah, John Wayne was a member; why does that not surprise me? Sorry, but ye'ol Ron that is the last straw. I should have just looked up his background in the first place. Belonging to the John Birch Society is tantamount to pure paranoia to the tenth degree, with a ultra-right-wing-christian flavor.

I can't see it anywhere, but it seems like John Edgar Hoover would be a de facto member for sure yet it's not listed. The John Birch Society comes off more as a cult much like Scientology to some degree (both equally horrendous in their own way). One member that didn't surprise me too much was Mr. Koch himself (Daddy Koch). That one makes perfect sense...

Atleast a few people know just how ridiculous the John Birch Society is here on the sift. I'll have to look around and see if I can find a good program about them, as they most deservedly need their own defined space here on the sift for us to pummel into submission. Problem is most of the documentaries I've ever seen on them were done in the 1980's--so I'll have to look hard, there may be some connected to PBS.

/Goes to read all the backgrounds on all the candidates from thorough sources...
//Really surprised the John Birch thing hasn't come up far more often and much more earlier...

Oh yeah and the UN IS F@$KING SATAN!!1!1 Just so you know.

I hear people sometimes say things like "J. Edgar Hoover ran America for a long time"

I've never believed it because there's simply no way the owners of the society would've allowed one man to hold the keys. However he's no doubt interesting and Clint and Leo should do a great job as usual.

Interesting, I wasn't even aware of this movie's existence up to now. Possibly another gold statue nod for DiCaprio & Eastwood.

On a sidenote:- I've seen many internet polls & "top tens" where J. Edgar Hoover has been voted America's no.1 "Asshole Boss Of All Time", looks like we're finally gonna get to see why

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9/11 Truth vs Denial vs Pseudo-truths and Other Lies

David Watts on the Backfire Effect:

“The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.”

9/11 is a perfect example. Despite the mountain of contradictory evidence of the official story, most people’s belief that what they are being told by the authorities and media becomes even stronger. If people were able to assimilate the contradictory evidence, they would understand that 9/11 was a false flag operation.

“The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.” — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” — J. Edgar Hoover, former FBI director

“Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.” — Marshall McLuhan, Canadian educator, philosopher, and scholar–a professor of English literature, a literary critic, a rhetorician, and a communication theorist.

Oh, Bill, No.
We "know" that Eleanor Roosevelt was gay. Ummm--no that is pure supposition.
The case of J. Edgar Hoover is quite telling. I believe he was gay--but I would never state it as a known fact.

I don't know about you....

But me and J. Edgar Hoover are proud to say that these fine young men never smoked pot.

God damn J. Edgar Hoover.