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Derren Brown Infamous

lucky760 says...

Love Derren Brown. This was by far the tamest of anything I've ever seen of his. (By that I mean lacking any real excitement. I kept waiting for something big.)

I didn't care about the fake surgery stuff. Lame, but just making a point about how fake it is and trying to have something to excite the overly sensitive. Whatevs.

I imagine the fake contacting dead relatives thing was maybe using things like a lot of YouTubers have done and just searched for people on social media who share their profile publicly. Easy enough to find people who are tweeting/facebooking/instagramming about going to a Derren Brown show then searching through their past posts to dig up good dirt about people who passed. If that's not along the lines of what he did, then I'd really like to hear some possible alternate methods.

Really no idea about how he did the invisible "aeroplane" trick.

Loved the finale and really have no clue how that was done either.

And if he didn't somehow force the dice, either he really did memorize those books with his dickbrain (I bet the boys in school gave him that name for a different reason - teehee) or the guy was a stooge and lying about what he was reading. Why wasn't there a camera there to show what he was seeing in the books?

Pre-set Rubik's cubes? Whe didn't we get a look at them before he "solved" it and while solving it, why was his back away from the audience and cameras?

Why Does 1% of History Have 99% of the Wealth?

criticalthud says...

perhaps, but first things first. Economic policy is secondary to energetic concerns. Innovation is seriously impeded if a society is primarily worried about feeding itself. You don't innovate if u spend ur time digging in the dirt for primary needs. Agrarian societies require energetic resources to become industrial.
Once that is considered, then u can argue economic policies. Until then, it's seriously premature.

scheherazade said:

The industrial age is part of 'economic liberty'.

People were free to make inventions that use coal, or use oil, and were free to market them either as products or services.

That differs from the earlier times/case where folks were obligated to participate only in activities sanctioned by their local lords. Often where they couldn't even travel freely.

Much of the math and chemistry we have comes from centuries worth of largely superfluous [essentially hobbyist at the time] higher education of the privileged classes. (eg. Boyle's/Charles' laws being a foundation of modern internal combustion engines, not used in said form for centuries after written down).

(Note : Which still continues to be the case, what we come up with in a purely theoretical form today, ends up being used in practical application much later. Although maybe it's speeding up. eg. Relativity is used in making GPS work, and that time delta isn't quote as large.)

Once the idea of economic liberty took hold, and people were free to come up with ideas that use the universes natural/physical properties to replace 'manpower', you had the industrial revolution.



The 'honor' part plays a good role too. You can witness this still being an issue today.
You can go to parts of eastern Europe, and talk with people about jobs and respectability.

There are plenty of places where a laborer is scum, and a businessman (eg. owner, who does not himself work, but has people working for him) is highly respected.
In these places, you don't see much work getting done, as a large portion of the typical western service sectors just doesn't exist.
For example, there are ~no house painters. Showing up with paint buckets and overalls would just get you strange stares and mumbles from people around you, and parents would be saying to their kids "See, this is what happens if you don't get good grades".
If you want your house painted, you gotta do it yourself. Few self respecting people are willing to do that job.
In contrast, ask people around the U.S. about who painted their house. Odds are, they hired for it.

The effects on small business are visible too. Lots of shops, the moment the owner can afford to not come in himself, that's exactly what they do.
And on top of that, they take every chance they can get to point out to folks that 'they don't work anymore - people work for them'.

It's a culture where the people responsible for productivity are looked down on, and it has a chilling effect on productivity.

-scheherazade

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Obama On WikiLeaks Source Bradley Manning:"He Broke The Law"

NetRunner says...

>> ^kceaton1:

This could very well be true. I just want to hear i from his mouth. The fact that it's been an issue for months with nothing said or done is the ridiculous part. No stance can change that part.
Yes, the activists do not follow the logic well. I'll agree with that. But, I also don't like my government hiding as much information as it does. I understand militarily it may be needed, but almost everywhere else it's fear of repercussions in politics and people trying to manipulate others.


Agreed on all points. I'd like Obama to hold a press conference on Manning, and really take the bull by the horns. I also wish the press corps would hammer him about this constantly (though preferably in the fair "what's the hold up on giving him a trial" sense, not the straw man "why are you pronouncing his guilt prematurely" sense).

I think too much gets classified, but I think in the case of the state department e-mail, I think there's a lot of grey area there. In one sense, I don't think government leaders should be in the habit of having wildly divergent public & private conceptions of their policy. But given that such things are probably unavoidable, I'd like for diplomacy to be able to happen in both kinds of forums to maximize the ability for it to work.

For the most part, I think Wikileaks reminds us of what the value of a real press is -- it's to dig up the dirt the people in power are keeping secret to avoid accountability. I think without some sort of adversarial press, it's impossible for us to ever hold anyone in power accountable. It seems like in America, we don't really have a real investigative, journalistic press anymore.

BP CEO "I would like my life back"

NetRunner says...

@chilaxe total agreement there.

@campionidelmondo, nope, no subscriber to the idea that Democrats are saints, just a subscriber to the idea that Republicans are wholly lost to the kind of evil that gets us into these situations.

I'm not so sure the theory that Obama is staying out of it to keep from getting the blame holds much water. For one, Obama keeps coming on TV to take responsibility for this. For another, everyone in the media is already ramping up to call this Obama's Katrina, and a lot are already taking the "what did you expect BP to do other than maximize profits?" line to defend BP against punitive measures taken by the government.

I'm at a loss to describe anything more that Obama or his administration can actually do at this point that he hasn't done already. A lot of what I hear these days are some variation of "take control of BP, and hand it over to <insert government agency here>", with "the military" being most often suggested as the branch of government that should take control. Of course, there's no suggestion on what more they could actually do if they took control, other than dig up more dirt on BP's negligence.

Mostly I think at this point he needs to run more of a PR operation to make sure people are more acutely aware of what he's already doing, so people stop pretending like he's doing nothing. Kinda sad, but at this point it seems like the only way to fend off the media narrative that's being built.

Amy Goodman detained & questioned about 2010 Olympics

bamdrew says...

funny, in a sad way.

border guard- 'What about the Olympics?'

amy g.- 'Huh?'

border guard-'.. you didn't know that Canada is hosting the Olympics next year?... aren't you interested in digging up the dirt about that?'

amy g.- 'Oh,... um yeah, sure... wait, are you saying there's a lot of dirt surrounding the event...?'

border guard- '-alright lady, you're out of the country!'

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Star Trek XI Trailer

Ryjkyj says...

Since when is building a spaceship outside, in the middle of the desert a good idea?
And is it just me or does Spock look all pissed off at 1:25?

EDIT: Oh, and it doesn't look to me like he's violating any laws of physics:

1. Kirk and the car are moving towards the canyon.
2. Kirk jumps from the car in the opposite direction.
3. The force from his jump slightly increases the car's velocity while just slightly decreasing his own.
4. He hits the ground still moving towards the canyon but friction caused by his hands trying to dig into the dirt is enough to slow him.

Stupid? Yes. Still possible? Yes.

Question is: why the fuck would someone do that anyway? In the context of the preview it seems totally pointless. Oh right, it's a JJ Abrams movie.

An investigation into the character of Laura (Femme Talk Post)

How Will it All End? - Salon predicts the Demo race outcome (Election Talk Post)

dag says...

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perhaps not. I personally don't think Hill is going to win a single state from here on out. So although he won't have a decisive majority by convention time, he will have enough of a lead that the super delegates will go with the Obama flow.

That's my prediction. Unless team Clinton digs out some dirt and anonymously seeds something out there. Don't think they wouldn't have these kinds of "nuclear options" in a file somewhere. I'm thinking ... a YouTube video of young Barry snorting coke off of a blonde coed's breasts. That would play well in Texas. It worries me- because the Clintons are in it to win no matter what.

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Frontline PBS Documentary on "The Mormons"

Aemaeth says...

I have to say this sift makes me quite sad. Most of the video was true (until you get to about 4 minutes in), but the way it's presented (by the poster) is so negative that it's hard to get any unbiased message from this video. I do find it amusing that none of the so-called experts happen to be members of the church and also that they all seem to have such an attitude of disdain.

Mike Wallace interviewed the church president years ago. He was asked by his producers to adjust the show to show something shocking and negative (to dig up some dirt) to which he reply there was nothing to be dug up.

I don't mean to start an argument with anyone here, I just want to suggest that this is a terribly biased representation of information.

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