>> ^Krupo:

There are widespread reports of gross human rights violations in what people are calling "Torontonamo Bay" - way too many independent stories for this to be waved off by anyone. I fear for my Canada.


People are stupid and easily manipulated.

Remember that.

Remember that it's not only the 'man' that exploits that weakness, but also all the opportunists out there, like the black bloc.

The G20/G8 are always magnets for violent groups that want to sow dissension between the people and the government. From all the Toronto coverage it looks like the stereotypical mess. Swarms of peaceful and respectful protesters assemble. A few people wanting to create tension between those protesters and the police start smashing stuff and setting it on fire using the protesters as cover. The police are thus forced into the impossible situation of separating the few bad apples out from the protesters, all the while private property is being destroyed and set ablaze.

It's small scale guerrilla warfare between the violent protesters and the police, with the protesters caught in the middle.

It's never a good idea to ask the citizens to take the law into their own hands. The point of the video and others is that the security was not there to stop the anarchists! They were there to sent a message through the Canadian police about how the countries of the G-20 might deal with opposition to their plans. The police charged peaceful protestors, kidnapped people, and assaulted numerous reporters!

I suggest reading Paul Jay's blog:
http://bit.ly/duSEIR

They utilized this model successfully in US [and throughout history]. Use a boogyman (eg. Al Qaeda) to justify over reaching powers for the authorities and have people's civil rights fade away. Last week CIA chief say that Fewer than 100 Al Qaeda are in Afghanistan, and US has over 100 Thousand troops there. Its the same scenario being played out in Canada now. The anarchist group is so insignificant and containable, but they are being used to fulfill the role of boogyman!

Canadians need to contact their MPPs and MPs to let them know that we won't be scared into giving away our civil rights and tax dollars. We demand a public inquiry into everything that happened.

>> ^cracanata:

Why nobody tries to stop them or investigate and identify these individuals? The genuine protesters should create a security "force" to deal with the black bloc/anarchists if they don't want police to play the coin of repressing violence in the streets.
There must be some counteractions that can be made to stop them.

Why nobody tries to stop them or investigate and identify these individuals? The genuine protesters should create a security "force" to deal with the black bloc/anarchists if they don't want police to play the coin of repressing violence in the streets.
There must be some counteractions that can be made to stop them.

Interesting, 3 minutes in the cops push back their cars.

"You can't stop a hurricane."

Oh dear, geniuses.

Hehe, I like how she considers the Black Bloc types Accused Agent Provocateurs... jury is kind of out on that.

AHAHAHA - last two minutes - he arrives from Ottawa, and is self-identifying himself as Black Bloc... and then calls the police brutal. Comedy.

The Black Bloc

When they arrest a deaf person, and refuse to listen to reason, although I'm unsure of the reason a deaf person would be in a volatile place like that. The refusal to listen to reason is proof enough that they cannot be negotiated with. Perhaps the best step would be a class action lawsuit for millions of dollars in damages. The only way for policy makers to understand is to hit them where it hurts, the god-damned check book. In the US hitting them in the checkbook would mean hitting the Taxpayer too, perhaps that is what it would take to wake the Populi up.

Even though the FOX news reporter stated that they were not Obama supporters, he continually made references to the democrats and freedom of speech.

These guys were Black Bloc - "anarchists" or real leftists. Their message is real and I support their ideology but not many times their actions. They don't believe in our massively corrupted two-party, corporate, pseudo-fascist system and I see eye-to-eye with this idea.

But, FOX News and all mainstream media will use the Black Bloc or other anarchist "extremist" groups to scare people away from protesting. The same thing happened before we began bombing Iraq... the Black Bloc swept across major urban areas of the country ; they graffitied police cars, they burned flags, they smashed windows of large corporations on break-away marches from the centralized and legitimate permitted protests. When they did this the media made it seem like the other 99% of the protesters were engaging in these activities of which they were actually condemned. So, if history repeats itself as the US gears up for war again, more protests of tens to hundreds of thousands will manifest and once again the media will focus on these 100-500 black hooded twats/hooligans who only aid in obscuring the much more important message of peace. A few screwballs can ruin it for the millions protesting with this shitfaced media monopoly we've got going on.

Yeah, "Fuck Fox News" - these guys had a chance to go all Chomsky on Fox Live and they blew it....